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Axle wrap bar location

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I am going to mount a Ruff Stuff anti wrap bar on my rig and wondered if it makes any difference whether it is mounted on the pass. or driver side of the frame. I'd really like to stay away from the passenger side because of my exhaust. But if mounting it there is better then I will reroute my exhaust. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
 

TAC71

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Sorry to say but passenger side is the better side. It helps combat engine torque on that side , decreasing torque induced body roll
 

Whoaa

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I used a different brand, but the principal is the same.

I choose this one for a few reasons; its simple & does the job, allows full articulation and full suspension compression & extention, mounts in the center to clear all exhaust options.

Welded a mount to the housing

Welded another cross member to the frame, and then installed the kicker with bushings on both ends


It's also helpful to weld on some bigger/longer leaf spring pads to the rear housing

And use top quality U bolts and hardware. Make sure to keep these fasenters torqued to 90+ ft lbs.


Getting the kicker lined up and installed

Tailpipe exhaust clears easily
 

Broncobowsher

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The wrap trap is actually very different. Been discussed before, if you want to argue that go dig up an old thread or start a new one.

Back to the Ruff Stuff torque arm, pretty much the same as the Duff Torque Tamer, I've done the same with an old radius arm and leaf spring shackle. These arms put a lifting force at the frame mount. With as narrow as a Bronco frame is, the mounting doesn't really matter. I have only done one mounted on the inside of the passenger side frame rail. It worked really well. No exhaust issue for me, I had it outside the frame rail under the passenger seat.
 
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377

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Thanks for the help guys. I knew there was a reason for going to the passenger side, countering the engine torque. That old radius arm has me interested . I have a couple laying around that were replaced with long travel arms. Thanks again for the help.
 

Joker11

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Whoaa,

How does the rear end travel up and down with that link bolted to an heim joint on the housing and a bushing at the frame mount?
 

Whoaa

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Whoaa,

How does the rear end travel up and down with that link bolted to an heim joint on the housing and a bushing at the frame mount?

The rear housing seems to move up and down to the full extension of the leaf springs and long travel shocks, 5 1/2" lift, 37" rubber. The side-to-side articulation also doesn't seem hendered.

I've had either side up about 40" w/ other side on the ground and no binding. No kicker-type of axle wrap bar is perfect, but this one seems simple and works well for what I need. The rear end swings in an arc because its attached, but never allows the axle housing to twist so much that it binds the driveshaft
 

frdboy

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I put my on the driver's side, have not driven it yet but does not seem to hurt articulation flexing it out.

 

JWMcCrary

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Been running Duff's for several years mounted on the drivers side and it works. I changed my transfer case setup 2 years ago and had to take it off, could tell it wasn't there, had the Duff bar modified and re-installed and again it works fine. Duff's is a fairly simple install with a little welding and you don't have to re-invent/build something.
 

Broncobowsher

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Been running Duff's for several years mounted on the drivers side and it works. I changed my transfer case setup 2 years ago and had to take it off, could tell it wasn't there, had the Duff bar modified and re-installed and again it works fine. Duff's is a fairly simple install with a little welding and you don't have to re-invent/build something.

But that is the fun part;D Especially when it works really well when you finish it!
 

bronconut73

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Can we start the "Which type of Anti Wrap Bar is better", discussion again? It's always entertaining. :)

This /\/\/\

Ok, I'll start it off....

Of course the best anti-war bar is the WH Wrap Trap.

Hehehe...
Get out your Popcorn.

Your welcome.
 

xcntrk

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I'm glad to see it will work on the drivers-side. I just redid my exhaust (for the 3rd time) and there's no way it will work on my passenger side. There's simply not enough room between the driveshaft and the frame for those running 2-into-1 exhaust in that location.
 

Whoaa

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The [small] stock leaf spring perch's are less than desirable. I think just be using some longer/heavier-duty perch's and high quality U bolts solves a large part of the axle wrap issue.

Here's the stock perch's



Top plates with a beveled edge


After market spring perch's that are longer/heavier duty and offer the ability to off-set the rear diff housing
 

ntsqd

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aw, c'mon, we haven't beaten that horse nearly to death often enough!

How I build spring 'plates' that stand the test of time, don't bend, & stand up to desert racer chase floggings:
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