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carter2772

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I don't know...............been the rage to call a bored out 302 a 306 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :geek: even seen the ask for 306 emblems and air cleaner stickers.
Thats not what i said. I have a 408, and thats what I refer to it as.... But when refering to it in liters, its a 5.8 example at the parts store. If youre buying parts for a 306, you would be buying parts for a 5.0
 

Scoop

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6.7 L = ~409 ci.

5.8L = ~354 ci.

In my 78 Bronco I have a 351M with a 400 rotating assembly bored .040 over. I refer to it as a 410.
 

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This is an interesting one. I didn't realize it was an ICON until it was mentioned in the comments.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-ford-bronco-170/

It has some interesting changes since it left the ICON facility. The fender flares are the most obvious. Sway-A-Way shocks replaced the Fox shocks. A Smittybilt rollbar has replaced Jonathan's unit, and a Sherman/BC tank has replaced the ICON tank. Interesting choices.

Todd Z.
 

Kevm

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This is an interesting one. I didn't realize it was an ICON until it was mentioned in the comments.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-ford-bronco-170/

It has some interesting changes since it left the ICON facility. The fender flares are the most obvious. Sway-A-Way shocks replaced the Fox shocks. A Smittybilt rollbar has replaced Jonathan's unit, and a Sherman/BC tank has replaced the ICON tank. Interesting choices.

Todd Z.
Each choice seems like a bad one.
 
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ngsd

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This is an interesting one. I didn't realize it was an ICON until it was mentioned in the comments.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-ford-bronco-170/

It has some interesting changes since it left the ICON facility. The fender flares are the most obvious. Sway-A-Way shocks replaced the Fox shocks. A Smittybilt rollbar has replaced Jonathan's unit, and a Sherman/BC tank has replaced the ICON tank. Interesting choices.

Todd Z.
I liked this one better before they did the changes. https://www.eliteautosllc.com/Pre-Owned-Inventory-1970-Ford-SUV-Bronco-Jonesboro-5870680
 

JoePro

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I’m not convinced it’s really an Icon. Lots of Icon parts but Factory glove box door, digital gauges aren’t branded, square a/c vents, sport emblem instead of one of the custom icon ones, 5 lug wheels instead of 6, factory frame/vin?, cowl ID card etc
 

toddz69

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I’m not convinced it’s really an Icon. Lots of Icon parts but Factory glove box door, digital gauges aren’t branded, square a/c vents, sport emblem instead of one of the custom icon ones, 5 lug wheels instead of 6, factory frame/vin?, cowl ID card etc
I'm scratching my head too on those items. I noticed one photo shows the frame stamp with the original VIN on it and I didn't think ICON stamped their Morrison frames with original VINs.

EDIT: Just emailed Jonathan and he confirmed it is not one of his builds.

Todd Z.
 
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bfoldy

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The last time this one made its rounds on BaT, the tale was that a former ICON4x4 employee was behind most of the build. Maybe it was similar to Johnny Cash’s “One Piece at a Time,” where he crafts a vehicle from parts snatched over the years. However, you can't sneak an Art Morrison chassis out in your lunchbox at the end of the workday- hence the original stock frame sticking around.
 

Kevm

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I'm scratching my head too on those items. I noticed one photo shows the frame stamp with the original VIN on it and I didn't think ICON stamped their Morrison frames with original VINs.

EDIT: Just emailed Jonathan and he confirmed it is not one of his builds.

Todd Z.
Wonder what they do instead of stamp? Just hand you a piece of original frame?
 

DirtDonk

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Did they come with standard seats like that? Shouldn't it have had cloth centers?
And what's with all these Broncos that have the rear lift gate handle pointed down! Seems like someone was in there and put it back together wrong. I see that almost more often than I see one that is correct.
Wonder if they made these mistakes at the factory sometimes? Kind of doubt it though, since I never saw them like that way back in the day.

Those facts, and the excess black under the hood, made me skeptical that the indicated mileage was actual. But so many other things being original looking, including the pristine floor mat, make me wonder...

Paul
 

toddz69

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Did they come with standard seats like that? Shouldn't it have had cloth centers?
And what's with all these Broncos that have the rear lift gate handle pointed down! Seems like someone was in there and put it back together wrong. I see that almost more often than I see one that is correct.
Wonder if they made these mistakes at the factory sometimes? Kind of doubt it though, since I never saw them like that way back in the day.

Those facts, and the excess black under the hood, made me skeptical that the indicated mileage was actual. But so many other things being original looking, including the pristine floor mat, make me wonder...

Paul
Yeah, I noticed that handle position too. I think the excess black is someone going crazy with the undercoating gun back in the day. The seats are correct - knit vinyl per the Marti Report. No EBs had cloth centers in their seats afaik.

Todd Z.
 

DirtDonk

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Well, if it's not cloth, then it's something I always called cloth, when you got the Explorer or Ranger packages with houndstooth and herringbone and whatever all those patterns were called. Different from the "patterned" vinyl of the stock parchment seats.
At least I always thought they were.

Not sure I ever saw the "knit vinyl" description either. I was always "parchment rosette" or something like that?
Wonder if knit vinyl was different, or in '77 was just a different name for the same thing.

Paul
 

SeaVee

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Here’s my original 77 Ranger interior, definitely cloth in the middle pattern and vinyl on the edges
IMG_2673.jpeg
 
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