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Brake lights not working

DeepC73

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I have lights all the way around that work; including tail lights and blinkers. However, the brake lights do not work. I have checked the brake switch, which is working and has 12v both coming in and going out. Any suggestions? I have a wiring diagram, but it is not very clear or I’m missing something. Any help is appreciated.
 

Broncobowsher

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If the rear blinkers are working, all the wiring between the turn signal switch and the lights is working fine.
Since you confirmed the brake switch is working correctly. That puts the problem between the brake switch and the turn signal switch. There is one junction where the steering column plugs into the dash harness. If that is good, leaves one thing. And it is really common, a bad turn signal switch. These go bad often. So expect to need a new one.
 

broncobuddha

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This is something that im chasing as well. My taillights and blinkers work but for some reason my driver's brake light isn't working. I'll be looking to the bucket ground I guess.

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If the turn signal works, that proofs the circuit. The ground is good. As proven by a properly working turn signal.

ALL brake light signals are routed through the turn signal switch.
 

broncobuddha

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Interesting. So on mine if the taillight works and the flasher works then what could it be? These are the led boards from Tom's. They were working after install.

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If the turn signal works, that proofs the circuit. The ground is good. As proven by a properly working turn signal.

ALL brake light signals are routed through the turn signal switch.

AGREE.check for power from brake switch AT turn signal/column connecter.check on both sides or turn signal side of connector could be poor contacts.[use a test light it will actualy put a little load on the circuit a meter wont]...

If your not getting power at the connector ,then recheck wire at brake switch sometimes the wire can break internally insulation still intact from flexing of the wires when the pedal moves up and down a few thousand times.. You can also put a jumper wire in place of the brake switch to make it easier to test along that circuit..
 

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I had this exact problem & it was the pin on the connector at the firewall. I've got a 66 & not sure what year you're working on but I would check where the wiring harness goes thru the firewall. On mine I think it was one of the bottom pins that had corroded so bad it wasn't making any connection at all(pin was basically gone). I ran a jumper wire around that stock connector & brake lights work now. Scratched my head a long time over that one!
 

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One more thing you can do as a test is to leave the key OFF so that the turn signals will not work. Flip the turn-signal lever to one side or the other and then press the brake pedal.
If your one brake light works (whichever side you flipped the lever to) then I'd say it's a turn signal switch failure.
If it still does not work then you still have to follow the wires between the brake switch and the column connector. Then up to the turn signal switch if necessary.

Since this is an LED board, does it use the same elements for brakes as turn signals? Or do they try to break them out independently? if the latter, then there could be a fault with the board.
If it's just a simple plug-in and uses the same elements for both brakes and turn signals as would be normal, then the fault still lies up between the turn signal switch and the brake switch.

Full disclosure, I've never tried the bit about flipping the turn signals on with the power OFF to see if that would indicate anything. But it seems to me that it would work.
After all, if your turn signal circuit sends power to the rear lights, and your brake switch is getting power all the way to the turn signal switch, then your lamp should light up when you hit the brake with the signal on one side.

Another test to see if the circuit is good up to the turn signal switch is to turn on the hazard flashers. When you hit the brakes all the flashing should stop and the lights should remain solidly illuminated.
This would also indicate to me that the brake switch is getting power all the way to the turn signal switch.

Again, never used that to test a circuit either, but that's it's normal function when everything is working as it should.

paul
 

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Hey DeepC73, welcome to classicbroncos too!
Sorry, forgot to add that part the first time around.

good luck with the issue.

Paul
 
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Update! I went through it and found the problem. The power wire coming out of the harness had been spliced and came loose where it T’s off and goes to the cigar lighter. I also have reverse lights now, but only when I shift into reverse. Once it is actually in gear in reverse they go off. I’m making a new post for that. Thanks everyone for the help.
 

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Congrats! Sometimes with wiring you just have to dig deeper. No matter how much you don't want to pull any of the good stuff out to find the bad.

paul
 

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I have lights all the way around that work; including tail lights and blinkers. However, the brake lights do not work. I have checked the brake switch, which is working and has 12v both coming in and going out. Any suggestions? I have a wiring diagram, but it is not very clear or I’m missing something. Any help is appreciated.

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