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Dana 44 high pinion narrow and install

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Also, it's not much, but diameter of tapered hole will be different at red & green arrows.
36 years in aerospace clashes with 49 years wrenching on a Bronco.

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Since I’ve recently had some time I sandblasted my high pinion 44 and today I got going on painting it. This is 3 coats of master series silver, I’ll get the black on tomorrow.
 

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Black is on. Getting this painted was the only thing holding me up from putting it under the truck. Can’t wait!😃
 

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You already know what I think. I think you need to stop thinking and start working.

If you are running A4F long arms, they already have caster correction built into the arms. This is unfortunate, because it's backwards from the direction you need. But they are nice arms, and if they are already on the Bronco, then use them.

Step 1. Cut off your factory wedges. Use an angle grinder with a 1/16x4.5 inch cut off wheel. One slice thru each weld. Save the wedges, because they cost $100 and there's nothing wrong with them.

Step 2. Figure out what you are going to do with your Bronco. Are you EVER going to lower it again? Are you EVER going to go taller? After you do the mental gymnastics, go buy a set of 2 degree poly bushings.

Step 3. Clean up your housing. Now is a really good time to grind off the weld for the inner C. With the wedges out of the way, it makes for easier grinding.

Step 4. Figure out your ride height. You said that you are 4.5 lift, but that's just a marketing number. Measure the distance from your axle tube top to the frame. It had better be 11.5 inches. Go cut a 2x4 that's 11.5 inches long. (or whatever number you actually are running.) Use it as a gap gage for height. You don't want anything to do with springs or coil cups at this point. (this should actually be step 0...)

Step 5. Install the 2 degree bushings on to your radius arms with your unwelded wedges. Install them as they were intended so that when this thing actually gets to an alignment shop, you will still have the ability for some adjustability. Clamp the c-cap bolts until they are snug. Install the front driveshaft. Roll the pinion up until the u-joint is exactly perfect. with the pinion pointing in line with the driveshaft. Measure the driveshaft angle. Which is also the pinion angle, which is also the diff cover angle. Take that number, and write it on the wall in your shop.

Step 6. I usually tack weld the wedges to the tubes at this juncture, (and I usually end up cooking my c-bushings a little.) It's ugly, and I usually regret it. But if you don't have a jig...it's hard to get the wedges perfect. A little tack will go a long way to making sure you don't introduce the "bronco lean"

Step 7. Install your inner C's. Rotate them to give yourself 7 degrees of Positive Caster. 6 if you like. Go back and answer step 2 again, convince yourself that 4.5 is the right height, and then set your caster. Put a tiny bit more positive caster in the Drivers side. Tack the inner C's.

Step 8 Remove the axle, and weld it. Step back and admire your work. (you will note, at this juncture...that you have done all of the work necessary to install a welded wedge High Pinion, except that you have sacrificed a perfectly good Early Bronco 44...)

Your situation reminds me of the story of the man who went to the restroom, and after using the urinal...accidentally dropped a quarter from his pocket into the urinal. He stood back, thought about it, and then took a $20 bill from his wallet and threw it into the urinal. He then reached into the toilet and pulled out the quarter, and the $20. The guy next to him asked "Why did you throw that $20 into the toilet?"
They guy replied: "Well, I wasn't going to reach in there for a lousy quarter..."



You have shared some good knowledge on setting up his axle. I learned a good amount reading your post, and the story at the end sounds like me😆 Lets hope he gets the job done
 
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Very nice work. I appreciate your perseverance. Paint is a huge milestone. Where did you end up on pinion angle and caster? And can you echo back your drivetrain? Thx.
Nice pic, what exactly would you like to know? I’m going to install it tomorrow and I may have to put it in a couple times. I’ll gather specs when complete.
 

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Just read this entire thread.

Like James, we need some numbers. :)

Looks like it turned out great.
 

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Tracking, steering and tire wear...
Or were you asking which one is better?

Factory uses positive camber, but usually too much of it for good tire wear on our vehicles. Negative though? Not sure of the exact issues you'd run into, but if you're building it for corner carving or autocross, I suppose a little negative would be an advantage. ;) :rolleyes::)
Not sure if anyone here has tried fiddling with different camber numbers to any great degree. Or if anyone has gone negative to see it's effects.
But interested to hear about it, if they have!

Paul
 
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Well I have the hp under the bronco and it is completed. I I want to tell you all about it but I hate typing. If I start at the beginning, I might need a publisher.
 

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So anyway, 5 1/2 inch lift with WildHorses 11 packs in the rear coils up front, BC Broncos adjustable track bar all for fun long arms I’ve been running 2° C-bushings.
When I put the bronco together two years ago, the front driveshaft had a horrible angle on it and so I wanted to do something to fix it plus the caster really wasn’t there and drivers wheel was leaning out at the top with positive camber something terrible. I put a bushing in it to correct the camber, but I couldn’t correct it fully so it was that point I decided I wanted to do some thing with the C’s and the pinion angle.
The 79 Dana 44 out of a bronco is what I had laying around and after research on this forum, I decided that I would cut 6 inches off of the right side and leave the left alone. Use the 79 bronco axle on the left and the original early bronco axle on the right. Eventually I’ll get different axles and upgrade them .
Somewhere on this forum I read that narrowing it and not doing anything to turn the inner c,s or change the pinion angle It would be good enough I can’t figure out our find where I heard that but I did and so that’s what I went with. I figured it would be good enough and this goes back to me always saying I don’t want to quit driving it long enough to do anything as far as upgrades or repairs.
So now I have it in and I really didn’t gain a whole lot still running 2° bushings in the long arms I haven’t gained a whole lot of castor and my pinion angle is a little on the high side, but my driveshaft is no longer maxed out up at the transfer case which is what I was looking for. However, I would like to have some more caster and better pinion angle so it might be. I’m going to drive this for a while and see how it is.
The track bar I ended up having to add 2 inches exactly 2 inches to Centre the rear end.
Here are some pics
 

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More pics trying to show clearance’s.
There is 5” of up travel before hitting bump stops
 

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And a few more. It snowed here today so I figured I’d show off my plow truck.
 

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Really like your plow truck!

We are waiting for white stuff. Not even enough falling yet for us to go TimberBiking tomorrow. By next Thursday the forecast is 3 1/2ft of snow where I want to go... all we can do is hope.

Without snow we have ZERO water for crops here so it's critical. At 35% of normal for snow and even less for water content. Our main reservoir was pulled as low as it could go last fall so we have no reserve.
 
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