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do you run steering stabilizer shock?

coyotedav

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im thinking about removing my steering shock. because i dont have power steering and any less drag is a good thing. please correct me if im wrong. as i do value all of your "experience" here. but im hoping that it will make it easier to steer and hoping i wont have any problems. now to give a little info about my 71. its a 71 all stock bronco,no power steering or brakes.302/3 on the tree.air,d44 front. stock wheels and stock sized tires. any input will be appriciated. thanx in advance, coyotedav
 

nrramse

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You're right - removing the stabilizer will make the steering a bit easier. But be careful when offroading - that steering wheel will come around really hard without the stabilizer (it tends to anyways).

I wonder if anyone makes a variable resistance stabilizer. One that gets stiffer with velocity seems useful.

Newell
 

broncnaz

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I think thats basically how they are valved. To take quick shocks out of the system. I guess you might feel a little differance in a nonpower setup but the steering stablizer can help with road manners. If your roads are good then I guess it would make no differance.
 

Z Bronco

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I don't run a steering stabilzer with my power steering setup, but do be careful with wheel whip without power steering. Thumbs up or you will break them.
 

Pa PITT

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Wow you BOYS are tough ... I'D BE afraid of the death wobble ....you go thru that once and your hooked on a steering shock....
 

Dan76

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I ditched when I did heims. Much much better than my old Y linkage with the stabilizer, on and offroad. But I do have powersteering!
 

73stallion

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Wow you BOYS are tough ... I'D BE afraid of the death wobble ....you go thru that once and your hooked on a steering shock....

jay, if you got death wobble you got another problem. if you NEED a stabilizer, you need to fix what's wrong.
 

nrramse

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I think thats basically how they are valved. To take quick shocks out of the system. I guess you might feel a little differance in a nonpower setup but the steering stablizer can help with road manners. If your roads are good then I guess it would make no differance.

I have the OEM one. I've had it out and moved it by hand, but its pretty stiff. Do you think its got a problem? If they're supposed to be restrictive only at high velocity, then maybe mine needs to be replaced.

Sorry for the small hijack.

Newell
 

broncnaz

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I have the OEM one. I've had it out and moved it by hand, but its pretty stiff. Do you think its got a problem? If they're supposed to be restrictive only at high velocity, then maybe mine needs to be replaced.

Sorry for the small hijack.

Newell

I think they are all like that but if you really try to push it in fast its harder to do. Usually they only need to be replaced when they are way to easy or leaking.

You have to consider that steering boxes are like your rear axle they have a certain gearing to make turning the wheel easier. The stabilizer is only there to help dampen any shocks to the box and hopefully to your arms. Once you start getting into bigger tires they are usually not a big deal as the tire itself absorbs more of the shock.
 
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coyotedav

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yes as far as tires,im staying stock for now,and as far as pot holes in the road.. arizona roads are very good,i havent seen any. so..think i will pull it and try that to see if steering is easier..
 

22213evl

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I have the OEM one. I've had it out and moved it by hand, but its pretty stiff. Do you think its got a problem? If they're supposed to be restrictive only at high velocity, then maybe mine needs to be replaced.

Sorry for the small hijack.

Newell

keep the stabilizer, if it works don't fix it
 

DirtDonk

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If you're lucky coyotedav, yours is getting old and frozen up and you'll feel a lot better when you remove it. If not though, they sometimes make very little difference in overall ease.
We'll cross our fingers for old and tired.

Is your box original or rebuilt by any chance? With mine, a new box made the most difference in how easy the truck was to steer.
I noticed only a slight difference in steering ease with the stabilizer removed, so I put it back on (just because) and ran with it for many years, until finally removing it for good.
It can't hurt to take it off for a test at least. That way it'll give you a chance to inspect things and see how the rest of the system works without it.

Up to the point that I replaced my box, I really didn't think anything was wrong. I was young and figured that armstrong steering was the normal way of things. When I had my first death-wobble incident though, I started replacing things to narrow it down.
New box didn't do anything for the wobble, but what a change in feel! It was like velvet. And easy? Wow!!!! All of a sudden I could steer with one hand at very slow speeds and parking was fun again.
Ran 85w/140 synthetic gear lube in it and it worked great for many years until I sold it just a couple of years ago. I owned my Bronco since it was 6 years old and had 68k miles on it and even then it never felt as good as it did with the new box.
So, if yours is hard to steer, hopefully removing the stabilizer will help, but there are probably going to be plenty of other things involved in the equation.

So, how are your arms these days? Getting to look more like Arnie and Popeye than normal?

Paul
 
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coyotedav

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wow dirt... never thought about the steering box. it has some play in the wheel.... might just start there..and yes gotta ware short sleeves because my arms no longer fit long sleeves...hehehe. thanx again,dave
 

DirtDonk

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Yep, good excercise for sure. Your clutch leg should be getting some extra beef too.
I'd still start with the stabilizer though. Two sets of nuts to loosen and you're basicaly done. Just leave the brackets on and pull the shock.
Let us know if it makes any difference.

Paul
 

LilRedBronco

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Wow you BOYS are tough ... I'D BE afraid of the death wobble ....you go thru that once and your hooked on a steering shock....

Does the stabilizer stop death wobble? I don't think it does... Death wobble is a different animal all together I guess it may slow it down but the things that go nuts when you get the DWs is the chassis stuff not steering.

And I have PS so I don't use them. I love seeing those big ole honkin brand new trucks with stabilizers I don't think they could get whip if they had to even without the stabilizers. But if it looks cool..
 
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My 1995 Grand cherokee w/ a 3 inch lift got very bad death wabble, I replsced the SS and it was back to normal highway speeds.

I just put one on my 1970 Bronco, I'm running 33x12.50. It drove fine before I put it on. I would get the shakes at speeds above 55mph. after putting a SS on I know get the shakes above 60mph.
I wish i bought the double SS ....
 
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