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engine oil coolers

bronconut73

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Any of you fellas running an engine oil cooler?
If so did you notice any better engine temperature control from it?
Are there benefits other than the obvious stuff like additional oil and better cooling?
Are there any disadvantages?
 

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I run a Derale flat-plate cooler on my trail rig. I installed it because a) I like to run oil coolers whenever I can on rigs that get punished a lot and b) I was having chronic overheating problems and every little bit of extra cooling helps.
 

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A huge chunk of cooling your engine is done by the oil - I have a cooler setup off a van I plan on using after I get a hood installed. It adds a bit of complexity to your setup and opens up a few more leak points, but it can be valuable...

I would like to have a pressure switch that kills the ignition if oil pressure gets below 20lbs..
 

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I like to run oil coolers whenever I can on rigs that get punished a lot and b) I was having chronic overheating problems and every little bit of extra cooling helps.

Punished? what you talking about Willis, I've seen you drive. Those trucks are handled with silk gloves.
 
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Can you overcool the oil?
Are you guys running the remote filter set up or the adapter that allows you to keep the filter on the frame?
 

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I'm using the explorer oil cooler. Fitment is tight, some mods required. Oil changes are messy.
 

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Can you overcool the oil?
Are you guys running the remote filter set up or the adapter that allows you to keep the filter on the frame?

I doubt it - the engine coolant sits in the block until the thermostat pops, no way you could straight cool the engine via the oil.
 

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Can you overcool the oil?
Are you guys running the remote filter set up or the adapter that allows you to keep the filter on the frame?

Yes you can. Don't confuse water temp with oil temp. They are not the same and only slightly related.

If you look at people who run oil coolers on street engines you will often see duct tape across the cooler when it is cold outside or just running around on the street. that is to keep the oil from over cooling.

For a street application there are only 2 ways I would ever consider running an oil cooler. First is an oil to water cooler. I really prefer these. It will help bring the oil up to temperture when it is cold out. Generally plumbed into the hot side of the raditaor tank if done in radiator. The stock truck oil coolers are plumbed entirely into the lower radiator hose, which probably works with the reduced flow of the plumbing but you loose the benifit of heating the oil with the water.

If all you plan to do is an oil to air cooler (which will take the stress off the water radiator system) then I would only consider it if running an oil temperture thermostat, This bypasses the cooler when cold to give the oil a chance to warm up.

The correct temperture isn't "as cold as possible", it is "normal operating temperture". Now the debate where normal operating temperture is open. I like high 100's, 180, 190. Some low 200s are good too, drives off the moisture. Mid 200s is getting warmer than I like. I have seen 285 once, stupid Chrysler put an oil temp gauge in a 300. If you hold 6000 RPM for 10 minutes or so the oil will get really hot;D. I also don't like really cold oil, if you can't keep it above 150 it is too cold. Cold oil has good oil pressure, but oil pressure is the resisitance to flow. I would rather warm the oil, loose a little pressure and know I have good flow. Cold oil can't drive out the moisture and will become contaminated in short order.
 

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I like to run oil coolers whenever I can on rigs that get punished a lot and b) I was having chronic overheating problems and every little bit of extra cooling helps.

Punished? what you talking about Willis, I've seen you drive. Those trucks are handled with silk gloves.

muah ha ha haaa :cool:
 

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Because I'm running a Cleveland, adding an oil cooler is a snap because of the way Ford included accessible oil system ports on the block, one in front and one in the back up top, that are perfect for adding an oil cooler. Only about half the flow is diverted through the cooler when you use those, so risk for overcooling in winter is greatly reduced at the expense of less cooling when you might want it when its hot. And there is no "adapter block" inserted between the oil filter and the block, which is how you typically connect an oil cooler to a 289/302/351W engine.
 

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I put an oil cooler on my truck since we run in the desert out here in the summer. I use a plate type cooler with a sandwitch adapter where the oil filter mounts. This required using the shorter Motorcraft FL-300 oil filter.
 
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I learn something new here every damn day. Sometimes it's not even about eb's.

This is the coolest f'n site on the planet.....

Thank you for all the responses guys. You're the best.
 

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When I installed mine I also installed a temp gauge. The oil temp coming out of the engine on long runs is about 215*, and it cools about 85* before it goes back in. I used a infared thermometer for those numbers.
 

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My brother runs a B&M plate type cooler for his auto trans and his engine oil in his Toyota with a 2003 4.3 Vortec...works great year round. Those engines are notorious for being difficult to cool anyway and came with in-radiator oil coolers from the factory, so rather than build a customer $1000 radiator with Griffin, he chose the plate-type coolers instead.
 

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You want your oil to hit at least 212 every time you run to Boil off water out of the oil. That said, unless you are doing hi rpm stuff, an oil cooler is not needed with an EB under any normal load, including crawling. If you race it, that's another issue.

If you have hi oil temps, you have other issues with the motor.

But alas, an oil cooler is cool....
 
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