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You need to wire in a dbl throw rocker switch or paddle switches and make the software changes when setting up all the parameters on your controller (like tire size, etc, etc).

Super simple, check their instructions on your hardcopy paperwork or the setup on line.

Good luck.
It seems to shift "fine" just the display is whack. We shall see.... I may regret not trying to get it repaired in time.
 

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Kevin didn't offer a warranty or exchange?

First thing is you need a new one no matter what

Second is that I would be extremely concerned that since it's sending weird msgs all over the screen that in a trans that is operated by electronic software that it would harm the internals of the trans because of errant multiple codes being sent to the trans instead of one at a time- nutshell, it damages internals.

Three it ruins your vacation

Fourth is the tranny is severely damaged and you still need a new controller so you have 2-3x the cost.

Just my thoughts on how wrong it could go. Surprised Kevin hasn't offered up a swap of some kind since the trans seems to be running ok that it's only a display thing??? $cary
 
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Kevin didn't offer a warranty or exchange?

First thing is you need a new one no matter what

Second is that I would be extremely concerned that since it's sending weird msgs all over the screen that in a trans that is operated by electronic software that it would harm the internals of the trans because of errant multiple codes being sent to the trans instead of one at a time- nutshell, it damages internals.

Three it ruins your vacation

Fourth is the tranny is severely damaged and you still need a new controller so you have 2-3x the cost.

Just my thoughts on how wrong it could go. Surprised Kevin hasn't offered up a swap of some kind since the trans seems to be running ok that it's only a display thing??? $cary
Took your advice and shipped in the controller. He said if they can find the issue and fix it, they will. If not, they will send a new unit. He was pretty confident that it was fine as-is for now. For more details on my conversation with him, PM me...

Fingers crossed its just a faulty display and I can get it back in time... exhaust guy said it will take 7-10 days. Im cutting it close!
 

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PM sent. Just got in. 8 time zones away
 

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You need to wire in a dbl throw rocker switch or paddle switches and make the software changes when setting up all the parameters on your controller (like tire size, etc, etc).

Super simple, check their instructions on your hardcopy paperwork or the setup on line.

Good luck.
I actually use waterproof momentary pushbutton switches for my controller. They are in my console right in front of my Winters shifter. One is for O/D on/off/manual shift mode, and the other is for tune changes. I also wired in a small LED to show what mode the O/D is in. LED off means O/D is on, LED on means O/D is off, and LED blinking means that the trans is in full manual mode. Link to the switches I used is below.

 
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I actually use waterproof momentary pushbutton switches for my controller. They are in my console right in front of my Winters shifter. One is for O/D on/off/manual shift mode, and the other is for tune changes. I also wired in a small LED to show what mode the O/D is in. LED off means O/D is on, LED on means O/D is off, and LED blinking means that the trans is in full manual mode. Link to the switches I used is below.

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Slick idea, Thanks for the link Tim.

What do you use to shift in manual mode?
 

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I actually use waterproof momentary pushbutton switches for my controller. They are in my console right in front of my Winters shifter. One is for O/D on/off/manual shift mode, and the other is for tune changes. I also wired in a small LED to show what mode the O/D is in. LED off means O/D is on, LED on means O/D is off, and LED blinking means that the trans is in full manual mode. Link to the switches I used is below.

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Can you post a pic of your setup?
 

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Tim's got all the cool stuff hooked up on his now.

When I ran my 4r I had OD lockout & I did the same but Tom has it wired up way cool.

I don't run any of that anymore with my 6r.
 

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Tim's got all the cool stuff hooked up on his now.

When I ran my 4r I had OD lockout & I did the same but Tom has it wired up way cool.

I don't run any of that anymore with my 6r.

Slick idea, Thanks for the link Tim.

What do you use to shift in manual mode?
I just use the shifter. I’m in manual mode 99.9% of the time when I’m wheeling. I thought about wiring in some switches for Manutronic shifting, but it’s just so easy with the shifter.
 

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ended up shipping the quick 4 in, they were able to repair it with a new display. That issue is fixed!

Now the new issue:

The trans often seems to stall/slip from a stop on a slight slope. Almost acts like a stall converter but never driven a car with a stall before? (I believe it has a 2000-2300 stall converter). It also does some irratic shifting between 2 and 3 at 30 mph-ish when cruising in 3rd. it feels like it will shift 3-2-3-2 and throw an error code "ratio too high for gear 3". Maybe just some tuning needed?

Almost feels like its low on fluid but I've got 14 quarts in it and dipstick reads full. stock explorer dipstick..

thoughts???
 
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Shifter adjusted properly? What’s the line pressure at idle? Those are the only 2 that I can besides fluid level that comes to mind. The rest are all internal.
I dont get an out of range error code on controller and seems to go into every gear as it should. So it seems adjusted OK. Havent checked line pressure at idle but have tried different main spring options in tune and no change
 

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Stall/slip when on slope... like the clutches aren't grabbing at all so you aren't moving fwd or grabbing and slipping and grabbing & slipping so rpms vary up & down?

This aint good because you're supposed to benon the beach right now! :(

What original "tune" do you have programmed in? Normal or high HP and har shift (or whatever USSHIFT's tunes are?

Hope it's not internal. Check the pressure port (left side if I remember right).


The weird shift tho. Third gear only correct?
Is that when cruising in 2rd & it calls for shifting into 3rd - (due to engine rpm &mph) and the rpm "flares" up some like you said into second gear?? It's a lockup issue with the converter. Program converter lockup ONLY for 4th and that will disappear. Really common.

I have 1 bar (phone) early am b4 the campground wakes up or late pm



That is common IF what is happening is the trans is trying to shift into OD for 3rd and m
 
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Took it to camp, got some help tuning pf4 and quick 4. Lost 3 and 4th gear on test drive. Was slipping in 1st gear on column too when limping it back... Sounds like some internal issues... Headed back to Florence in the am with the back up car. VW baja.... Sorry to hear about the 6.7 brian!
 

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So sorry to hear about your trans issue! You've worked so dang hard getting it all ready!!:(


Will be at the drags tomorrow or hint me down in H loop #359
 
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Ive fought Pf4 injector issues, firing order, quick 4 display, electrical fire, now this all in the last 4 weeks. It runs good now and turned out nice otherwise. Sucks to miss the event realizing I took apart a perfectly good running Bronco in December. Ha!


To add in case somebody else can benefit from this info in the future... I had switched the rpm signal to a square wave and that seemed to help the ratio too high error and 3-2 erratic shifting.

Will try to find and meet you
 
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What dipstick and what dipstick tube are you using? Just because the dipstick reads full, if it isn't correctly paired to a matching tube the lengths will be off. Actual fluid level is low but dipstick is too far into the pan.

Is the filter installed? If not it will be as if you are low on fluid as the pickup is at the valve body and not the bottom of the pan.

The lost 3rd/4th is generally a direct clutch failure, broken stub shaft, or split hub. But with slippage issues, I go with failed clutch.
 
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