Anyone using this and what's the review good an bad. TIA!
http://www.ronfrancis.com/prodinfo.asp?number=XP-784
http://www.ronfrancis.com/prodinfo.asp?number=XP-784
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Ron Francis wiring harness
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I've worked with them on other projects and like them a lot (and sell Ron Francis products too of course, at WH). It's not for every Bronco though, just due to the overall size of the panel. Takes a bit of thinking to find the best spot. Which is usually over on the driver's side kick-panel above the parking brake.
I really like the idea of many of the circuits being pre-terminated at the business end, such as headlight sockets and such, and then you simply run the wires where you want them, through to the fuse panel, then just cut and strip them right there at the end.
Pretty simple in concept when you get down to it. Probably great for the total custom harness install, where the others require a little more work because you have to crimp, solder and heat shrink most of the working ends.
But it's not for everyone, and there is some argument that having a factory connection to the fuse panel is more important than having one at the load. I can't argue either way. They both make sense to me.
I think it mostly comes down to what you want to do, what you think you're more comfortable with when it comes to wiring, and where you want to put the fuse panel/box in your build.
Otherwise, the quality is top notch, as are all their products. The wiring is clearly marked and comes bundled in sections so is easy to keep mental track of in spite of them being all separated vs the other harnesses being one big bundle with a few separate branches here and there.
With most Broncos, you could go either way.
Nice price point too.
Paul
I really like the idea of many of the circuits being pre-terminated at the business end, such as headlight sockets and such, and then you simply run the wires where you want them, through to the fuse panel, then just cut and strip them right there at the end.
Pretty simple in concept when you get down to it. Probably great for the total custom harness install, where the others require a little more work because you have to crimp, solder and heat shrink most of the working ends.
But it's not for everyone, and there is some argument that having a factory connection to the fuse panel is more important than having one at the load. I can't argue either way. They both make sense to me.
I think it mostly comes down to what you want to do, what you think you're more comfortable with when it comes to wiring, and where you want to put the fuse panel/box in your build.
Otherwise, the quality is top notch, as are all their products. The wiring is clearly marked and comes bundled in sections so is easy to keep mental track of in spite of them being all separated vs the other harnesses being one big bundle with a few separate branches here and there.
With most Broncos, you could go either way.
Nice price point too.
Paul
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I forgot to mention that I really like their "switchable" fuse section. Where you can put the fuse in one way and it's full-time power, or put it in the other position and it's switched with the key only. Very slick.
And they do say this one is small, so it might not be the one I've used before. Thought it was their Express though. Guess I'll have to look at the dimensions to decide whether what they think is "small" is the same as I think is small.
(edit: No, they just use "small" in relative terms...;D Actual size is 4.75"W x 7.5"L x 3.375"H
So while it's very workable, it's not exactly slim and svelte.
Small or not, it's kind of nice to have all the doo-dads in one spot. Relays, flashers (also relays of course), fuses and such.
Paul
And they do say this one is small, so it might not be the one I've used before. Thought it was their Express though. Guess I'll have to look at the dimensions to decide whether what they think is "small" is the same as I think is small.
(edit: No, they just use "small" in relative terms...;D Actual size is 4.75"W x 7.5"L x 3.375"H
So while it's very workable, it's not exactly slim and svelte.
Small or not, it's kind of nice to have all the doo-dads in one spot. Relays, flashers (also relays of course), fuses and such.
Paul
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broncoitis
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Looks like another slick harness like Paul mentioned and I too like how easy it looks to change where it is keyed power or full time power. Nice option I think!
Good harness if you have lots of add on stuff, best installation place I found was cut the dash out removeing the ash tray and speaker grill and build a bracket to hold it to the dash. that way installation can be done on the bench then moved to the bronco for final termination.
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Or, you could get the one with the magnetic base!
Also a kind of slick idea in the right applications. The base mount is a magnet and you can just reach up, yank the entire fuse box out of it's position and lower it down to work on it more easily.
It does mean that you would have extra wire that would be bundled and hooked to stay out of the way, but when needed it could be unhooked to allow it to stretch out.
Might not be perfect for an EB... But then again, it might!
Paul
Also a kind of slick idea in the right applications. The base mount is a magnet and you can just reach up, yank the entire fuse box out of it's position and lower it down to work on it more easily.
It does mean that you would have extra wire that would be bundled and hooked to stay out of the way, but when needed it could be unhooked to allow it to stretch out.
Might not be perfect for an EB... But then again, it might!
Paul
ezbngreen
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I have a Ron Francis harness. It's an earlier version and takes up more space. The termination box is on the passenger side right under the glove box. There is a piece of diamond plate that hinges from the floor, so it swings up and down. Everything is bolted on to this piece. The computer is there also.
The only downside is the complexity of the box. What happens if a wire comes loose inside? I've mis-diagnosed problems and cut into mine before. It's not pretty. Lol.
John
The only downside is the complexity of the box. What happens if a wire comes loose inside? I've mis-diagnosed problems and cut into mine before. It's not pretty. Lol.
John
broncotime
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I installed one about 12 years ago and love it. I was able to put the fuse panel on top of the inner fender in a pelican box. Was more work to install than a prewired bronco specific harness, but gives you the flexibility to run everything the way you want. Wires are all clearly labeled and the instructions were very clear.
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