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Trailer size and bronco weight.

jw0747

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DUDE, TMO should pay for a Uhaul carhauler to get you to OK! That's what I'd do then take your sweet ass time to source a nice trailer once you get there. Be a LOT cheaper than shelling out the cash for one in Long Beach!!!!

best advice on here by far. once you get back home come down to East Texas to buy a trailer. there are about 8-10 trailer mfgs in East Texas and going directly to their factory will probably save you a bundle.

not necessary to get brakes on both axles because if one axle brakes fail your truck is heavy enough to stop your trailer no problem. my truck is a
1/2 ton HD GMC and it stopped my trailer on a long trip when we had to disconnect the electric trailer brakes because they locked up due to moisture.
 

bmc69

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My 16', 2 x 3500# axle, 2 5/16" ball, electric brakes on one of the two axles, car trailer has hauled an EB behind me for ..I dunno...50K miles at least over the last 15 years?
 

Brian in MI

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Like others have said, get a trailer that will match your trucks GCVW. I had an 18' 7000#gvw car hauler and finally got fed up it. So I got a PJ Buggy Hauler, 20' deck, 8.5' wide, 5200# axles both brake, LED lights, 2 5/16" hitch, fold up ramps. Get a trailer that is more than you need, you will not regret it. Heavier trailers tow better and haul better.

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might be me...but i wouldnt load them backwards. id rather that motor as close to the front axle as possible.

In both of those pics you have more tongue weight on your truck than is recommended and you have two axles why do you want all your weight on the front one. Just gives you a lot of tire scrub when turning and your back tires will wear out before the fronts are half gone. All the weight of your engine front axle winch and bumper are well out in front of the trailor axles so your tow rigs bumper has most of the weight. But with a rig as nice as that one it looks like it can take it. For those that don't have a rig like that it's a different story the front end on there tow rig would be to light and unsafe.

Just my opinion, but most cases load driving forward, but the key is positioning it on the trailer so there is a "reasonable" weight distribution on the tongue.

Just from my limited experience. too much forward is too heavy on the tongue, imbalance, and it could do some good swaying on you, going down the road.

Like others have said, get a trailer that will match your trucks GCVW. I had an 18' 7000#gvw car hauler and finally got fed up it. So I got a PJ Buggy Hauler, 20' deck, 8.5' wide, 5200# axles both brake, LED lights, 2 5/16" hitch, fold up ramps. Get a trailer that is more than you need, you will not regret it. Heavier trailers tow better and haul better

luv that trailer, you wanna sell? lol, J/K.

Sorry Raptor, be patient with your choices, you'll find the right one.
 

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I would get a 7k or 10k trailer with brakes on both axles. I think the extra stopping power is well worth it. Aluminum is great but they are expensive.
 

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DUDE, TMO should pay for a Uhaul carhauler to get you to OK! That's what I'd do then take your sweet ass time to source a nice trailer once you get there. Be a LOT cheaper than shelling out the cash for one in Long Beach!!!!

Great advice, the Uhaul trailers are well worth it. They have a 7000lb GVWR and it tows awesome. Trailers will be cheaper and more of a selection out of Ca. Then you could have one built to what you want.
 

Kyle.malone

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20 foot dovetail trailer with single axle brake. I got the extra length due to tow other vehicles besides my bronco. I would go at least 18'.
 

Kyle.malone

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If you could wait, you can get a metal floor in OKC for the same price as those. I paid $2500 for mine with a metal floor, welded in D- rings for straps and a long tongue for a tool box to be bolted down. Bought it new only 8 months ago. Here's a pic.
 

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jw0747

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Big Tex & Top Hat both in East TX and both have excellent products. mine is a Top Hat all steel. if you can afford it go with all steel and you'll never have to replace rotten boards.
 
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If I wait then I am going to get a 22ft goose neck. I want to put a slide in camper on it and have room for a bronco on back.
 

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Something else to consider-when you step up to an 18-20' trailer you should also be able to step up to 4800 or 5200 axles depending on manufacturer- this will not only give you larger brakes, but also larger tires/wheels.
We also have put ALOT of miles on my 22'tag since it was built in '04-towed behind three rvs from Fla. to Montana, to Maine to Az and back to NC + all the eb trips behind various trucks. I am a huge fan of the larger tires/brakes plus the 6lug wheel vs. the 5lug on many 3500lb axle trailers.................
 

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My trailer was a home built 16' dual axled horse trailer axles (torsion bar) 7000lbs, 4 wheel brakes,all 2x6 channel frame with 2x6 channel tongue 2 5/16" ball.

The builder of my trailer was also a sales rep. for a company that suppied most of the trailer manifactures in the pacific northwest. His design was a copy of what he thought was the best from what he saw during sales calls.

I had mine for well over 10 years and I have to say it's one of the most used items I've ever owned, so don't go cheap.

In Washington state any trailier over 3000lbs have to have brakes on all axles, now in Texas were its flat maybe single brake axles are maybe ok but when it comes to me you can never have enough,and the reason I say this is because you alway end up over loading them because thats what we do. In the rockies or cascades (Wa. & Ore) you can have 20-25 mile long down ward grades were there are truck sand traps every 5 miles if your brakes fail you'll be shiting razor blades. Most flatlander have no idea whats it like to travel the western states.

After 10 years the #1 thing I've come to like the best are the torsion bar axles, you get true 4 wheel independent suspension. My reason for saying this is I've found so many times you're are going to get something empty or you're coming back empty and its like its not even there, and when loaded it's even better. Another thing about torsion axles is lower ride height.

When it comes to size yes sometime I wish I had a longer trailer but even a 16' trailer it seams you need a 1/2 a football field to turn around so think about that before buying bigger plus home storage when not in use it takes a lot of sq. footage.

About 5 years ago when the wood deck died I made upgades,I found a ocean going refer. container with a alum. deck which saved about 150+ lbs plus I added more tie down D rings because they just weren't in the right place for all the things I seamed to carry. And at this time I extended the tongue about 20" and the reason I did this was the tongue jack was part of the hitch and you could not put down the tailgate and if I had my 10' camper I would have to add a 18" stinger which changed the hitch point and lenthened the distance from center line of axle (not good).The 20" also made the backing up and jackknifing into parking spaces easier plus again even better towing.I also added a folding trailer jack because the old one was bent from scraping the ground.

When I bought it the trailier it was already built and the 7K axles were part of the deal, 8K axles (6 lug wheels)again because you are always pushing to its limits. This is the way I'd go if I had had a choice. If I went 18' I'd do a drop tail.

I would never load a vehicle on backwards!!! Use a lesser drop hitch or air bags to adjust ride height. And don't buy a alum. adjustable drop hitch I known of 4 different people were those have broken to a tune of about $100,000 of losses most are china crap, steel ones made in the US are good.
 

Bronco717274

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br0nc0xrapt0r, In the pic of the trailor you posted that trailor tongue isn't very good. The tongue should go from about one inch in front of the front axle all the way up to the coupler. That one only goes back to the first cross member, meaning there's only two weld's on each side. Look for one that is well built some of those trailors are just made of 14ga. tubing. That red ps is a very nice and well built trailor you won't go wrong with one like that. I'd go with a 2 5/16 coupler too, that way most people can't borrow it most people have 2in. balls on there truck's and believe me there going to want to borrow it. No one will take care of your trailor as good as you will yourself. I've gotten mine back with flats broken lights missing ramps and broken jacks and most of them were family members and friends.
 

hartbronco

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Boyz ... Years ago an old Guy showed Me a trick on loading a trailer ....and it works Best IMO :)
After You hook Your trailer Up take a tape and measure the wheel opening over the back wheels to the under side of wheel arch on the Box side( lets say it's 10") -1"to2" from that would be 8" then load Your trailer and shoot for the 8" and Your good to Go . It works every time no mater what is on the trailer , not to heavy and not to light
We drove for three days from Powell River BC Canada to Moab like this at 50-75mph with out a problem thats 2500miles round trip . it's all in how You load it !!!
 

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ransil

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Are you sure pickup in in Sandy Eggo? Long beach was matson port years ago.

16" does not let you move the bronco for weight distribution, pretty much must live with where it sits, an 18" will give you some room to play with.
Some states require brakes on both axles.

I like the bigger tires with the bigger weight axles as stated above, I see some of theses trailers with these wimpy 14" tires , but I do have just as many blowouts/flats as they do my 16" tires just cost more.

GET a spare you will need it..down the rode get TPMS for them, best thing I ever got for my tires no need to keep looking back and doing crazy ivans all day, night time its many miles before you realize the tire shredded 20 miles back.
 

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16 foot trailer, with 3500 per axle and brakes on each axle. I pull this with a Nissan Titan. Made it all the way from Anchorage, Alaska to San Antonio without a problem. I used chains and axle straps from Mac's and it didn't move an inch. Some say to cinch down the suspension, but I don't. Have a safe trip.
 

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Great advice, the Uhaul trailers are well worth it. They have a 7000lb GVWR and it tows awesome. Trailers will be cheaper and more of a selection out of Ca. Then you could have one built to what you want.

TMO won't pay for one. I asked and was turned down. They will pay for regular trailers for DIY moves, but not car haulers. You can however use the car hauler for weight. You have to have the vehicle weighed empty, with the trailer attached and Bronco on it. Then load the truck and the Bronco with as much stuff as you can and weigh it again. That was the only reimbursement I was able to get. If you don't need a trailer, U-haul is the way to go. That's how I got mine to Alaska in the first place.
 

KyleQ

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16' + 2' beaver tail. Wide kit, drive over fenders, 2X 3500lb axles with brakes on BOTH axles. This is the best towing trailer I've ever had to use, and I've rented and used a ton of stuff. Sometimes I forget that it is behind me weather its being towed with a 99' Tahow or my 86' F350 - very smooth and turns like a dream with the tires back so far.



Lots of room up front for junk - I can easily fit a 4 wheeler without the truck box on there. With the truck box I've got tons of room to work on the truck and strap it down. Whatever you get, make sure you get some d rings on it, they are awesome for strapping things down and using them in a block and tackle setup.
 
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