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Transmission Choice

Tony Mele

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New member here. Need a bit of experience and advice. Looking at a few different possible Bronco purchases. Found the one I really love but its at 3 speed manual. I love stick shift but I also want to be able to drive this thing on the highway at highway speeds without winding it out... I'm not much of a rock crawler so I don't need to go super slow but I would also be taking the back and dirt roads regularly. And occasionally towing a lightweight pop-up trailer. Is the 3 speed manual a decent choice or would it be a better idea for me to wait for an automatic?
 

blubuckaroo

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Your three speed isn't inferior to the C4 auto.
My preference in three speeds though would be for the one made for a six cylinder engine. It has a little lower 1st and 2nd gear ratio. I've often wondered why Ford used a different one for the V8 option.?:?
 

pcf_mark

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A LOWER first and second? The drop to third must be crazy. I describe a 3 speed and rev to the mooon, shift, clunk-clink-clunk, rev to the mooon shift, repeat.
 

thegreatjustino

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I love stick shift but I also want to be able to drive this thing on the highway at highway speeds without winding it out...

Every single non-overdrive transmission be it automatic or manual has a final drive gear of 1:1.

The only two transmissions available from the factory on an EB were non-overdrive.

The only thing that's determining your highway rpms is your rear end gearing. Has absolutely nothing to do with a transmission with a 1:1 final gear ratio.

Now, if you're talking about a transmission with an overdrive gear (which would be an aftermarket swap in an EB), those have different final gear ratios depending on the transmission and can have an effect on highway RPMs.
 

blubuckaroo

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A LOWER first and second? The drop to third must be crazy. I describe a 3 speed and rev to the mooon, shift, clunk-clink-clunk, rev to the mooon shift, repeat.

All I'm saying is with the six cylinder model tranny, you won't have as much clutch wear as you would with the V8 model tranny when using oversized tires or pulling a trailer. Both have a pretty high 1st and 2nd ratio, but the six cylinder model is lower.

Bronco 3 spd (6 cyl) 3.41 1.86 1.00
Bronco 3 spd (8 cyl) 2.99 1.75 1.00
 

broncodriver99

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Wind away I say. They aren't modern vehicles and won't perform like one. The only way to run 70 MPH and tach "reasonable" RPMs is to change axle gear ratios and run an OD transmission. You may or may not need to do some engine upgrades to get the torque you need in the RPM band you will be running in.

As was mentioned a 3 speed manual and C4 auto have the same final drive ratio. The 3 speed will likely be turning a few RPM slower at any given speed as it won't have converter slippage like an auto.

302's like a little RPM and are just fine cruising at 2400-2800 RPM on the highway. They may get a little thirsty while doing it though.
 

SavageBurro

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As noted by others, both the manual and the auto are 3 speed trans that have a 1:1 high gear / no overdrive. However, there are a number of overdrive transmissions that can be adapted to fit. You might be able to find a bronco thst already has an o/d trans already installed... or you could spend the few grand to do it yourself.

For towing, two strong manual trans with a good o/d that can fairly easily be adapted are the zf5 and nv4550.

Most common auto is the aod, aode, 4r70w (same basic trans oldest to newest)

Good luck and welcome to the site.
 

Viperwolf1

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My preference in three speeds though would be for the one made for a six cylinder engine. It has a little lower 1st and 2nd gear ratio. I've often wondered why Ford used a different one for the V8 option.?:?

Two reasons. 1) Different output shaft lengths. 2) Six cyl trans was too weak for V8 power.
 

sykanr0ng

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You can't hurt an SBF that is anywhere near stock by running 'high' RPM's.

They are not like 'modern' engines, they are more likely to be damaged by running at low RPM's under load, the condition was called 'lugging' back in the day.

The intake and heads will limit RPM's by limiting air flow.

Keep good oil in it and the only thing damaged will be your wallet, paying for gas.
 

SavageBurro

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Not that it matters but I had a typo, I meant NV4500 not 4550.

BTW: Tire size and axle gear ratios can have just as much or more impact on rpm, seat of the pants power and ability to tow. Stock 3.55 on 35s with a healthy motor will be a great highway cruiser with a 3sp but you may not like the around town driving and towing would likely suck. A bronco on 32s with 4.56s will likely tow pretty well and do ok on the hwy but you aren't going to set any top speed records.

Unless you have a sizeable budget - buying a bronco will likely require you to have some trade-offs. Do you want good rust-free body, nice interior, sound wiring and less desirable running gear? Do you want great powertrain and sub-par body? If you have the funds, then by all means broaden your search and find one that has it all.

If you your budget allows you to buy the bronco then pay someone to swap a trans then get the bronco that has the body and all the other amenities you want.

While a trans sounds like an expensive item, it can be less complicated and costly than replacing rusty body panels, chasing electrical issues, or fixing any number of gremlins found in a 40-50 year old rig.

One good thing is, you can find replacement parts for just about everything through the numerous bronco vendors.

If you don't have the means to pay someone to do all the work on your rig and you don't know how, you may want to pay a bit more upfront to have everything you want.

That is unless, you're willing to dive-in and learn.

Btw... these are old rigs that can be very reliable but expect ongoing maintenance and repairs.

In any case - good luck!
 

blubuckaroo

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Two reasons. 1) Different output shaft lengths. 2) Six cyl trans was too weak for V8 power.

Well then, a lot of owners have V8 cars that were converted from I6 back in the day. It's hard to tell who has one, but they not only run fine, but often better than the V8 version.
Those are the lucky few. ;)
 

bmbm

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trans

I went with a nv3550 and cruise comfortably on the freeway with 4:11 gears.
Have 30's and will have 31's next.
 

blubuckaroo

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I went with a nv3550 and cruise comfortably on the freeway with 4:11 gears.
Have 30's and will have 31's next.

Fist bump!
In a world where bigger is better, common sense prevails!
I have the same drivetrain but am actually going smaller. From 32" to 31".
Some couldn't understand the reasoning, but it's my ride.;)
 
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