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Air compressors and bronco work...

bigpitbull

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What air compressors are you guys using to run your air tools and paint guns to work on your broncos? I have a buddy that swears by the harbor freight 60 gal... I am more of a hobby kind of guy so I won't be usingit all day everyday... What do y'all think?
 

NicksTrix

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you can never have enough air. once you start using grinders they will suck a tank down quick if you are getting after it. if you want to ever have a blast cabinet you need some serious air to power it otherwise you sit and wait all the time while your tank builds back up pressure.

my shop runs off an Eaton Freight Train with a 80G tank and I need to step up. even one guy can work it hard if they are doing something that really eats the air up.
get as much air compressor as you can afford. you won't regret it.
 

allenfahey

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You say you want to paint. A spray gun uses a TON of air, probably second to only a sand blaster. If you paint an all over you are constantly using it for 10-15 minutes at a time and a properly setup HVLP gun should have HVLP fittings from the air source to the gun. HVLP fittings are rather large and require a large volume hence the High Volume of the name. LP is the low pressure measured at the cap. High air usage goes for using a DA too which you can use 30-40 minutes at a time as well. I have a 7.5 80 gallon Ingersol Rand but I would recommend at least a 6.0 80 gallon twin piston. Buy the largest you can't afford, you won't regret it!
 

TN1776

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Get the largest compressor that you can afford. Large tank and a big pump.
 

jmangi62

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I recently bought a 60gallon from Lowe's,so far it's everything I've needed,getting ready to paint the bronco so hopefully it holds up,but for $499 I can live with it :cool:
 

56f100bbw

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My new shop I just bought a 80 gal 7.5 HP 25 CFM champion with a aftercooler they are a bunch of $$ really quiet compared to my ingersol rand buy the biggest you can afford if you do any media blasting don't go smaller than a 7.5 HP
 

Pa PITT

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.. After the 1st post I'm just responding also.. You just can't get too much air..
.... I have 3 compressors in my shop.. when I try and paint I need all 3 pumped up and hooked together ..
.. Last summer I was working on restoring a 404IH Tractor and was using a lot of air.
Now 2 of the 3 compressor went down. This is next summer''AUGUST'' and I'm about to add a Harbor freight Pump in place of one of my down compressor.. Most likely by September I'll be back too normal... And maybe I can paint my Classics Tractor.
...............................
.. You just can't have enough AIR.
 

00gyrhed

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You can live with almost any air compressor but you will have to sit and wait from time to time. You have asked a question that no one can really answer for you. i worked for years with a compressor from a two ton window unit and a large freon drum. i even painted a 55 chevy with the contraption. I went to an 80 gallon compressor from Home depot 30 years ago and it is still running. It takes up the corner of the room and is loud when it runs. It has no trouble keeping up with a paint gun but isnt anywhere near big enough to sandblast all day, or even run a die grinder non stop.
The point is that likely you will buy an air compressor and soon find out it isnt big enough because you buy an air hammer or a good die grinder. then you move up in size but still cant run a sand blaster.

I painted a lot of cars with my old mans 7 gallon Craftsman compressor. But then I also painted one with an airless one time. :)

If you are the kind of gut that will always have car projects running and will be in your garage constantly for the rest of your life, buy the biggest air conpressor you can afford. You need to consider the loss of space, the encreased electrical service, the noise, and how you will honestly use it. (you should get at least a compressor that requires 20A 240V, 30A would be better.)

If all you are going to do is paint a car every couple of years, fill tires, and use an impact to remove a subborn bolt every once in a while then the chances are you can get by with a little 7 gallon 110V 15A unit, you will just have to wait on it from time to time. Heck, If I remeber right the 7 gallon one will just about empty a paint gun before the air pressure drops to low and it will build back up in the time it takes you to refil. But it wont run an old two quart siphon production gun. Also be aware if you use it much you will wear out several of those little ones before you wear out a big one.
 

lowbush

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Im my opinion you can cheat paint with a 60 but you really need a 80 to paint right, CFM is actually more important than capacity but for the most part they go hand in hand you find the highest CFM pumps on the largest tanks. Anything less than a 60 is just not realistic for paint, and most people that do paint will say that even that is not enough to do it right.
 

Timmy390

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I have an 80 gal Quincy QR-25. It keeps up with about anything.

Filters, aftercoolers and dryers are a must when using paint equipment.

Tim
 

Broncobowsher

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Never have too much compressor unless you start running out of electricity to run it. When you find a 440V 3-phase, that is probably a little too big for a home garage.

220V, 5+HP, 10+CFM, 60+gallon, belt drive, oil lubed. That would be my minimum specs.
I really like 2-stage. My compressor cycles 150-175 PSI, keep the regulator set to 120 most of the time. But when needed, that extra pressure can sure make some air tools really do magic
 

Crawdad

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I bought an IR 80 gal 5 hp dual piston two years ago. I got it from TSC during Black Friday specials. I got it for $899.99 but I got the four yr ext warrantee for like $225. The bonus was that they allowed me to put it on layaway for 60 days. That time was needed bc this thing weighs 600 lbs and I needed a trailer to take it home and a spot to put it. I ran copper pipe all around, a lil overboard but I had plenty of fittings. One thing I recommend is getting a good filter. It took me two years but I finally got a Devilbliss filter to feed my new HF blasting cabinet. It runs very well and blasting is super great till I keep it blowing for like five minutes strait. I give the compressor a minute to catch back up. The jobs I do really only take like two minutes so I'm satisfied. When I do decide to paint I plan to use a gas powered compressor in conjunction with my IR compressor. That should be plenty of volume for painting. Don't forget to get good vibration pads bc it will shake everything off your shelves!

I wanted the 7.5 hp IR unit but it was like $600 extra. Once I found out it weight like 100 lbs more and they had to deliver at $125 extra that option quickly died. I saw plenty of units for sale on CL and yes HF has good units. Keep in mind these things are freagin heavy so taking it back for a replacement can be a bear for most. If mine goes bad IR will come to my house as part of their customer service as long as its a factory defect.
 

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Pa PITT

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All that being said.
You just can't get too much air. Remember I SOLD DuPont PAINT from 1967 until 1995 at my part store.
.. But at my house I HAVE 3 COMPRESSORS .. 1 is a 60 gal Speedair about 40 years old. Next is a homemade . about a 40 or 50 gal tank, and I'm about to get a new Harbor freight pump too get it back to work. And then I have another 10 gal and Homemade AC york compressor with a 1 hp motor.
.. I like to plug all 3 together & let them shut off before starting to paint.
.. Or run my AIR DA's & long Skinny sanders..
 

Unaweep

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I just picked up a free 100 gallon , dual stage 10HP 3 phase air compressor from a shop that bought a new rotary screw compressor. Swapping out the motor for a 7.5 single phase and when its all done just under $1000!

I calculated it should put out 22-23 CFM at 125psi with the 7.5hp.

yeee hawww!
 
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