Bad roll today. I'm done and getting out of 4wheeling.

[Grunt1058]

Anyone needs a cage in SoCal, look me up!

I wonder how long the drive is from Albuquerque NM to Lake Elsinore CA.


What are you, about an hour and a half or two hours south of LA?

 

[commonlaw]

Extremely glad you are safe to tell the tale and take stock of the incident. No one can tell you what the right move is, as your choice is completely yours and this experience was unique to you. That said, I respect your decision but hope that you decompress for awhile and then decide whether you want to stay around broncos on a more mundane level.

Not to downplay your experience in any way but I dont know how many times I have thrown the towel in in haste (girls, rigs, gambling...well that one was probably good for me ) and later regretted my choice. Good luck, heal up and I hope to see you lingering around the site.

Mark

 

[Broncoholics]

I wonder how long the drive is from Albuquerque NM to Lake Elsinore CA.


What are you, about an hour and a half or two hours south of LA?

66mi SE of Los Angeles.

 

[mstark]

I'm glad you and your passenger are safe, that looks like one heck of a downhill. A cage and some good harnesses can do a lot in a roll over like that.

On the other hand, I am with the majority of the members here and am sad to see a fellow Bronco owner leave the fun of recreational wheeling. I'm only 15 and have had plenty of good scares, I've over came all of them with time however, and I feel you will do the same. I'll have to agree with SaddleUp that wheeling is a lot safer than riding motorcycles/dirtbikes. I had one heck of a scare when I hit a dog on my dirtbike doing near 50m.p.h in a gravel pit, one of the scariest things I think I've ever had happen to me. At the time I was 13 and on a fast bike. I was scared to go back to riding for a while but I eventually got over it. There are somethings that scare us in life but none of us should change because of a scare.

If my Dad decided to get out of wheeling because of a rollover I would be very upset. I've learned more out on the trail with my Dad than anywhere else. The time you can spend with your kids out there is great, it's really a family sport. Me and my Dad discuss everything on our rig together and examine it together, it's really a great father/son bondage.

mstark

 

[bigmuddy]

Bad roll today

Scotty, sorry to hear about the rollover! I would wait awhile before getting completely out of the bronco business altogether. I was thinking that you had a really nice stocker already? I rolled my new work truck, trailer and bronco down the highway about 3-4 years ago and walked away with a bruise on my thigh I swore I would never trailer a rig again and haven't but I found myself talking to a guy today that has a cheap car trailer and I might pick it up for some trailering down the line. Point being is that never is a long time and we all know how hard it is to get away from the obsession that is Bronco. Even if you get out of the bronco business stay on the list if you can, and how much do you want for the cage

Ben

 

[Madgyver]

Scotty,
I understand how you feel, I've seen that "Life Flash" before where we push ourselves and our equipment to the limit. We put ourselves in a predicament that cannot be controlled and ask ourself "if I wasn't here this wouldn't of happened". Well, It's something we love to do. Maybe if we down tune it a little than we could be more careful and still enjoy it.
For me it was a fishing accident where me, my cousin and a friend were out night fishing from shore out in the bonnies, hours from any help. Northshore surf was up like 10 feet which back then meant a 20 feet face. This was about 10 years ago. My children were still using diapers back then. It was about 10:30pm on a dark night (no moonlight) whitewater (surf) was churning everywhere around the rock where we fish from. I did the stupid thing of going down the cliff to cut my fishing line, Lost traction and fell into the surf, I threaded water for about 20 minutes in the high surf, Exhaustion gets to you and I needed to get out of the water quick, My cousin threw me a lifeline and with my friend they both got me out of the water. Bruised and cut up from the rocks and with rope burns I came out OK. All I thought of the rest of the night was my children. Packing up at night is dangerous so I told my cousin and friend I was alright to stay till sunlight. I realized how serious the situation could of been, I've lost a friend (27 yrs old) along the same coastline, The Coast Guard found his body the next morning in 20 feet of water. I thought of quitting after my incident but it's in my blood. I learned from it, became alot more careful, Made sure I always respected the ocean because it will take you anytime. It may have been that I shouldn't have gone fishing that night with the surf forecast being high.
So I totally understand how you feel and the choice you make.
Be happy you're still here and good luck in everything else you do.
Honorio

 

[97XEB]

Very glad that both you, and your passenger are OK! That is absolutely the most important thing.

I'm with consensus... give yourself some time, and dust yourself off before you make any final decisions. There's a lot of great wheeling and tons of laughs, fun and experience on less extreme trails.

 

[astark]

If my Dad decided to get out of wheeling because of a rollover I would be very upset. I've learned more out on the trail with my Dad than anywhere else. The time you can spend with your kids out there is great, it's really a family sport. Me and my Dad discuss everything on our rig together and examine it together, it's really a great father/son bondage.

mstark

Sorry to hear of the incident and that you are considering getting out of something you have loved, so passionately for so long.

Michael makes a good point that in part includes a reminder there is much more to wheeling than the obstacles overcome out on the trail. It provides opportunity for many other things that may be even more important in the grand scheme of things. And the obstacle you now face may be your greatest challenge yet, but can be overcome and you have some darn good spotters all around and about you.

I may not be capable of traversing the same terrain you have, with my rig at my skill level. But probably get the same thrill on a level three that you get on a level five or above. And I'm certain we have collected similar memories while out on the trail with those we love, our friends and selves. To give up on those things will be the hardest part and what I expect you will miss the most.

So I would suggest you take the alternate route around this obstacle and meet your friends up at the top, there are plenty of us who will take the easier route with you and have a great time doing so.

But if you do need to leave, I hope you will find something to replace what you have loved, so passionately for so long.

Good Luck and God Bless (he was looking out for you and still is).

 

[4x4x289]

stick with the broncos. plenty of enjoyment remaining without hard core wheeling if you choose not to do it anymore, especially if you've got the t-shirt. I never rolled, but I feel lucky to be alive after all the sh_t i've done. On two occasions, passengers have jumped out and cussed me (cussed because they were embarrassed that they couldn't take it anymore). I've done some stupid things. Anyways, I hung it up and came back light. Just last Friday I told my 6 year old we were going to the camp. His first question was "are we taking the bronco?" "Absolutely" I said. His response was "Yessssssssssss"

 

[plate]

Grunt,

I bought my bronco in Albuquerque and drove it home to los angeles,

I left at 7pm and pulled in around 9am

The drive is good do it at night bring about 4 monsters and you will be good to go.

I wonder how long the drive is from Albuquerque NM to Lake Elsinore CA.


What are you, about an hour and a half or two hours south of LA?

 

[SaddleUp]

stick with the broncos. plenty of enjoyment remaining without hard core wheeling if you choose not to do it anymore, especially if you've got the t-shirt. I never rolled, but I feel lucky to be alive after all the sh_t i've done. On two occasions, passengers have jumped out and cussed me (cussed because they were embarrassed that they couldn't take it anymore). I've done some stupid things. Anyways, I hung it up and came back light. Just last Friday I told my 6 year old we were going to the camp. His first question was "are we taking the bronco?" "Absolutely" I said. His response was "Yessssssssssss"

I will not let anyone ride with me unless it is first understood that they will stay put unless I tell them different. I had a passenger jump out once and I was the one that was doing the cussing. I always give the the option to get out before I tackle something difficult but once I get into it they need to stay where they are for their own safety. If it's too extreme I may not even give them the option to stay in.

 

[4x4x289]

I will not let anyone ride with me unless it is first understood that they will stay put unless I tell them different. I had a passenger jump out once and I was the one that was doing the cussing. I always give the the option to get out before I tackle something difficult but once I get into it they need to stay where they are for their own safety. If it's too extreme I may not even give them the option to stay in.

I didn't cuss my passengers. I just told them to leave thier beer in my truck. One case was were i was simply wanted to do a few laps on a fozen pond (i stopped at the fringe (in the cattails) - the other case was just before my second attempt at climbing a sand pit wall.

 

[SaddleUp]

I didn't cuss my passengers. I just told them to leave thier beer in my truck. One case was were i was simply wanted to do a few laps on a fozen pond (i stopped at the fringe (in the cattails) - the other case was just before my second attempt at climbing a sand pit wall.

Cussing was a bit of an exageration on my part. I did however jump on their case good about it because they put themselves in danger when they did it. The other rule I have which people often have a hard time with (because it is easy to forget) is to keep all limbs inside and off of the roll bar. I myself have even neglected that one and in one case it came back to get me. (I rubbed the side of a tree with my hand between it and the roll bar) The only reason I just bruised my fingers is that the soft top and padding helped to keep from smashing them too bad. My hand hurt for a couple of hours though.

 

[Tom Dummer]

Back to you, Scotty. I lost a great wheeling buddy a few years ago to the "never again" crash. My younger brother. He has wheeled with me since back when he & I would steal Dads farm truck and head out across the valley before either of us had drivers licenses.
We were on a big run that I put on and he was at the end of the line of rigs, since he waited so long to take a steep, muddy descent, his motor cooled off to the point that the choke came on and the engine was acting up. Well, it died half way down the worst section, and he lost control of his VERY nicely built '50 Willys pickup and slammed into another friends also built Willys p/up. This was on purpose to slow his speed down before he tagged a tree- hard. His wife and daughter were there and his girl happened to be NOT strapped in --long story short, this saved her--. BUT, what I'm getting at is he rarely got to wheel in the years before that and he blames the accident on his skills being "rusty".
Now I know your Bronco was down for a while and from the pictures, it seems like you may have went for the extreme run for a shake down of the truck and yourself. You are good at this sport and I hope you use the parts you haven't yet sold to start your next horse.