New Bronco - press conf from Ford

[bax]

Turbo on a diesel runs much cooler than a turbo on gas engine. High exhaust temps will limit a turbos life. So its true that a diesel turbo application will last much longer than a gas turbo application.

 

[okie4570]

Turbo on a diesel runs much cooler than a turbo on gas engine. High exhaust temps will limit a turbos life. So its true that a diesel turbo application will last much longer than a gas turbo application.

How so when egt on diesel are hotter than on a gas?

 

[fosgate150]

Interior

How about an interior shot?

I think the interior is awesome. There is a lot of throwback to the early Bronco in it but with new technology of course!!

 

[bax]

How so when egt on diesel are hotter than on a gas?

OK. I need to explain my view. Average diesel and average gas. Yes a diesel ic capable of much higher EGT's that a gas. But those temps come under load. Average load pre turbo diesel get temp is around 1200F. Pulling the bronco in your f250 up hill doing 80. That will be hotter than your gas engine. However how about EGT on both gas and diesel around town? Your gas turbo will run hotter than your diesel turbo all the time. Add the fact that the diesel turbo has bigger bearings and better oil cooling. My point is the gas turbo goes thru its everyday life at 1200F regardless of load or RPM. The diesel will be cooler until it is put under a heavy load. no load around town is around 700F pre turbo. If your diesel is under load all its life it will run hotter . then the only thing it has going for it is the engine oil cooling it, the larger bearings and the overall size / efficiency of the unit.

 

[okie4570]

OK. I need to explain my view. Average diesel and average gas. Yes a diesel ic capable of much higher EGT's that a gas. But those temps come under load. Average load pre turbo diesel get temp is around 1200F. Pulling the bronco in your f250 up hill doing 80. That will be hotter than your gas engine. However how about EGT on both gas and diesel around town? Your gas turbo will run hotter than your diesel turbo all the time. Add the fact that the diesel turbo has bigger bearings and better oil cooling. My point is the gas turbo goes thru its everyday life at 1200F regardless of load or RPM. The diesel will be cooler until it is put under a heavy load. no load around town is around 700F pre turbo. If your diesel is under load all its life it will run hotter . then the only thing it has going for it is the engine oil cooling it, the larger bearings and the overall size / efficiency of the unit.

Make sense to me thanks

 

[sprdv1]

Man w/the plan...

OK. I need to explain my view. Average diesel and average gas. Yes a diesel ic capable of much higher EGT's that a gas. But those temps come under load. Average load pre turbo diesel get temp is around 1200F. Pulling the bronco in your f250 up hill doing 80. That will be hotter than your gas engine. However how about EGT on both gas and diesel around town? Your gas turbo will run hotter than your diesel turbo all the time. Add the fact that the diesel turbo has bigger bearings and better oil cooling. My point is the gas turbo goes thru its everyday life at 1200F regardless of load or RPM. The diesel will be cooler until it is put under a heavy load. no load around town is around 700F pre turbo. If your diesel is under load all its life it will run hotter . then the only thing it has going for it is the engine oil cooling it, the larger bearings and the overall size / efficiency of the unit.

 

[sprdv1]

I think the interior is awesome. There is a lot of throwback to the early Bronco in it but with new technology of course!!

can't wait to see it in person for sure

 

[73azbronco]

Make sense to me thanks

That was my point I didn't say right, diesels are made for turbos, daily use vehicles, not so much IMO with experience on 4 vehicles, 2 VW, one mini, one audi (sort of vw). All were more than done at 80-100K miles.

Do love the interior shot with passenger oh shit handle.

 

[Yeller]

OK. I need to explain my view. Average diesel and average gas. Yes a diesel ic capable of much higher EGT's that a gas. But those temps come under load. Average load pre turbo diesel get temp is around 1200F. Pulling the bronco in your f250 up hill doing 80. That will be hotter than your gas engine. However how about EGT on both gas and diesel around town? Your gas turbo will run hotter than your diesel turbo all the time. Add the fact that the diesel turbo has bigger bearings and better oil cooling. My point is the gas turbo goes thru its everyday life at 1200F regardless of load or RPM. The diesel will be cooler until it is put under a heavy load. no load around town is around 700F pre turbo. If your diesel is under load all its life it will run hotter . then the only thing it has going for it is the engine oil cooling it, the larger bearings and the overall size / efficiency of the unit.

Those are good points. Air/fuel ratio and timing control are paramount in turbo life on a gasoline engine, and just as important is water cooling not just oil cooling the unit, that and the total power developed is why the cooling packs on the turbo engines are so large. From what I’ve seen with good AFR and timing control along with a well designed water cooling they can live a long happy life.

As to the points with VW, Audi and Mini (BMW), 100k life expectancy on their gasoline engines is well known. They just say we Americans drive too much and are too dumb to understand their fabulous engineering that lasts the average European 20 years that drives Roughly 1/2 the miles annually of the average American.

 

[elan]

All Ford needed to do was provide a normally aspirated V6 and I might have bought in to it. I'll let others buy in to this new Bronco forced injection while I watch. Yes, I'm a cynic but this doesn't add up. Ford has been making odd decisions over the last 5/6 years, not for the good

 

[jim3326]

I love the minimalist look of the interior, similar to the EB. I'll probably wait until they get a few bugs worked out.

 

[Nickp]

All Ford needed to do was provide a normally aspirated V6 and I might have bought in to it. I'll let others buy in to this new Bronco forced injection while I watch. Yes, I'm a cynic but this doesn't add up. Ford has been making odd decisions over the last 5/6 years, not for the good

If the 2.3 Ecoboost can handle mustang ricers putting massive turbos and getting tuned to hell, it can survive the Bronco.

 

[OX1]

The first ecoboost f150's came out in 2011. I have a 2013 still going strong.

After very heavy offroading, swamping it, clogging up intercooler, running it hot after you lose 1/3 of antifreeze from leak, all while loaded down with gear and HP sucking large tire, bumpers, no roof, etc....???? I have a hard enough time many time keeping a NA motor cool.

 

[ared77]

Got this in the mail today -

 

[daddycreswell]

2021 Bronco options, packages, etc leaked.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...ios-trims-colors-tops-packages-and-more.1606/

 

[dsenatore]

I wonder if anyone's gonna get the Sasquatch package?? Taskerrrrr...

Special Packages:

Towing Capability
Mid Package
High Package
Lux Package
Sasquatch Package

 

[73azbronco]

One more correction to my turbo comment, it's not the turbo heat, although that is a huge issue here in PHX but only stop and go traffic, they work great while moving and in mountains. The problem I have had with turbo motors is the stuff on the motor to make it work with the turbo stuff, camshaft tensioner, vacuum/boost leaks up the ying yang, engine controllers, ignition packs, air control MAF etc. Only one oil leak at turbo. But three burned mre than 1 qt per 1000 miles.

 

[sprdv1]

Seen where a few folks have gotten them "posted on FB

Got this in the mail today -

 

[FordFarmer]

2021 Bronco options, packages, etc leaked.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...ios-trims-colors-tops-packages-and-more.1606/

I see that painted body color fender flares are an option. That may look sharp and dismiss with my one design complaint....the flat black jeepish flares. Which will likely ruin my no car payment lifestyle as I’m about ready to ditch my POS ‘04 BMW X5. Dammit!

 

[edgeoffroad04]

Received my stickers in the mail this week too. Got really excited at first when an envelope with the printed Bronco logo and Emblem was addressed to me.