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Project: White Top Ford (WTF)

akforsyth

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Well since CB lists that I have been here since 2004, I figured it was about time to finally start a build thread. And to be honest I am only now to the point where I can actually say I am going to build my White Top Ford!

For a bit of back story I purchased my first 1975 Bronco in 2006. Upon getting it, I drove it for a week, and after feeling like I would die if I drove it anymore, I tore it right down. Body was braced and came off, axles pulled out from under it, motor and tranny taken out, and the bare frame was sand blasted. I picked up a 351 roller block and set to work making it an efi machine that would fit under the hood. Back in those days, a lightning lower was easy to come by on the internet and I picked one up and made friends with a local engine builder. He took me under his wing and let me hang out in his shop learning from him and rebuilding my motor when the time came. I definitely learned a lot from him and was super stoked to keep going. I decided on a M5OD and bought the advanced adapter kit for a ZF since it was just being said that these would work. There was not much info on the tranny but I had a F350 with a ZF in it an knew I didn't want my bronco to shift like that. I much preferred my F150 with the M5OD. As a nice guy, I put an add up for the old C4 that was in it, offering it for free to any Bronco brother that needed a tranny. It took about 3 hours before it was gone! Keeping a long story short, work transferred me in 2009 just after I finished the engine build and the Bronco came with me to a new house with an even larger garage, but by then kids happened and the Bronco sat untouched for a few years (first pic under snow). Then the divorce happened. The Bronco became a target for no reason other than it was something I loved. When all the dust settled, I managed to keep the rolling frame and (craftily I might add) the glove box door. Title remained in my name.

Post divorce transfer with work again and the Bronco now went to my parents property where it sat for five years (2014-2019) under a tarp. 351 got the occasional bit of love in the way of spinning the oil pump and turning the crank over a few turns, but really not enough. One thing I can say is that the POR 15 that I sprayed on the frame held up like a champ! The occasional spot of surface rust, but other than that not nearly as much rust as one would expect for a bronco frame sitting in a field!

Fast forward to more recent times. I met my new wife, who loved that I had a dream of building my own Bronco for us to roll around in in the summer months. The idea of me needing space to work on one was a key factor in us looking for a new house together. She made it clear that the new house had to have a shop for me to work on my Bronco (and enough room for her horses). And we eventually found that just outside the city we worked in. Problem being that as we looked for our new home, all I had was a rolling frame with a motor that had not run in many years and was probably a boat anchor. Then it happened.

One day while she was on Facebook, she brought her phone to me to show me something. Not only was it something, but it was a 1974 that was for sale about 10 hours away from me. I had always been looking, but every Bronco that I found to this point was not for sale, no matter how long it had been sitting and rusting away. By that weekend I was off with a rented car trailer to pick up a 1974 that was in need of some work (understatement of the year)!

I picked up my blue 74 and we had to push it up on the trailer. It came with a steel washtub of parts that used to be on it and brand new tires! At this point I was just happy to have another Bronco. Now we had not taken possession of the new house yet, so again this one went to my parent property to hide under a tarp till we could bring it home, but thankfully it was not too long. We moved in in the late fall, and although the shop is never big enough, I now had my very own 30x40 quonset shop that was going to be where the adventure begins...

OK that is long enough. I already a bit into the tear down and rebuild of the Bronco so I will b posting the progress pics that I took along the way till we get caught back up to where we are today (it's not that far... yet)
 

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Glad you finally getting to start your dream. Nothing like an Old EB!!!!!!!!! Sorry to hear about the divorce and Bronco being a target. If someone tried to take my Bronco, I would go to jail. Good Luck with the build!
 
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It was finally nice to get a place to begin to work, but unfortunately the snow hit and it was just too damn cold to do much in the bronco. Luckily come spring the boy and I began digging into things.

I’m already glad we measured every possible thing we could but I am sure we missed something. Along the way we discovered some of the measurements were way out compared to what we gave read online. What we found were plate steel inner fenders/kick panels that had been made by the PO. We also found that where there were seems that he could get to he ran a bead of weld along them making it almost impossible to remove a panel without destroying it.

Then one day a 96 white explorer followed us home, wanting to donate its 5.0 to our cause. Ended up taking the motor and everything else we could use and somd the rest for the price I paid for it.
 

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hell yeah.. glad you finally got the right partner and rig to make yours..

look forward to progress pics/posts

Well since CB lists that I have been here since 2004, I figured it was about time to finally start a build thread. And to be honest I am only now to the point where I can actually say I am going to build my White Top Ford!

For a bit of back story I purchased my first 1975 Bronco in 2006. Upon getting it, I drove it for a week, and after feeling like I would die if I drove it anymore, I tore it right down. Body was braced and came off, axles pulled out from under it, motor and tranny taken out, and the bare frame was sand blasted. I picked up a 351 roller block and set to work making it an efi machine that would fit under the hood. Back in those days, a lightning lower was easy to come by on the internet and I picked one up and made friends with a local engine builder. He took me under his wing and let me hang out in his shop learning from him and rebuilding my motor when the time came. I definitely learned a lot from him and was super stoked to keep going. I decided on a M5OD and bought the advanced adapter kit for a ZF since it was just being said that these would work. There was not much info on the tranny but I had a F350 with a ZF in it an knew I didn't want my bronco to shift like that. I much preferred my F150 with the M5OD. As a nice guy, I put an add up for the old C4 that was in it, offering it for free to any Bronco brother that needed a tranny. It took about 3 hours before it was gone! Keeping a long story short, work transferred me in 2009 just after I finished the engine build and the Bronco came with me to a new house with an even larger garage, but by then kids happened and the Bronco sat untouched for a few years (first pic under snow). Then the divorce happened. The Bronco became a target for no reason other than it was something I loved. When all the dust settled, I managed to keep the rolling frame and (craftily I might add) the glove box door. Title remained in my name.

Post divorce transfer with work again and the Bronco now went to my parents property where it sat for five years (2014-2019) under a tarp. 351 got the occasional bit of love in the way of spinning the oil pump and turning the crank over a few turns, but really not enough. One thing I can say is that the POR 15 that I sprayed on the frame held up like a champ! The occasional spot of surface rust, but other than that not nearly as much rust as one would expect for a bronco frame sitting in a field!

Fast forward to more recent times. I met my new wife, who loved that I had a dream of building my own Bronco for us to roll around in in the summer months. The idea of me needing space to work on one was a key factor in us looking for a new house together. She made it clear that the new house had to have a shop for me to work on my Bronco (and enough room for her horses). And we eventually found that just outside the city we worked in. Problem being that as we looked for our new home, all I had was a rolling frame with a motor that had not run in many years and was probably a boat anchor. Then it happened.

One day while she was on Facebook, she brought her phone to me to show me something. Not only was it something, but it was a 1974 that was for sale about 10 hours away from me. I had always been looking, but every Bronco that I found to this point was not for sale, no matter how long it had been sitting and rusting away. By that weekend I was off with a rented car trailer to pick up a 1974 that was in need of some work (understatement of the year)!

I picked up my blue 74 and we had to push it up on the trailer. It came with a steel washtub of parts that used to be on it and brand new tires! At this point I was just happy to have another Bronco. Now we had not taken possession of the new house yet, so again this one went to my parent property to hide under a tarp till we could bring it home, but thankfully it was not too long. We moved in in the late fall, and although the shop is never big enough, I now had my very own 30x40 quonset shop that was going to be where the adventure begins...

OK that is long enough. I already a bit into the tear down and rebuild of the Bronco so I will b posting the progress pics that I took along the way till we get caught back up to where we are today (it's not that far... yet)
 
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Just trying to catch up with where we are today. We have been taking pictures all along (mostly to help remember how things go!). We tried to catalogue as much rust as we could, getting pictures of it and seeing just what will need to be replaced. As with all projects, the more we dug the more we found. And the more oddities we found as well, including the NP203 transfer case and custom make plate steel inner fenders(that were throwing all the alignment off. Even so, the amount of rust kept piling up...
 

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As a self diagnosed Bronco hoarder, I couldn't say no when I learned of this sitting in a junk yard next to an uncle of mine. I loaded up the dog the next morning and made the 5 hour trip to pick it up for a couple of hundred dollars. The idea being if I get really ambitious I might turn it into an off-road truck for my son and I to play with since I still have my original 75 chassis.... or just to compare measurements on as well as remember how things go together. Btw, the dog approved of the purchase.
 

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Well nothing says you did't brace enough as when you begin cutting the old floor pans out and the back bed drops! A quick realization for the fact that the body mounts are at the back of the bed as well as under the seat platform. So all stop, we jacked the rear floor back up to where it was and braced it. A bit of a pain in the a$$ as the original owner had a 3" body lift under it (no suspension lift) so it sits quite high off of the frame. A little bit more investigation also found the broken floor support, custom kick panels were not welded to the support, thus the dash angle was not from Bronco lean, but the fact that the side of the Bronco was not supported.
 

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Winter wasn't very conducive to working on the Bronco. With farm chores and work, there was a little time left for whiskey and to teach my boy how to use the plasma cutter...
 

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It was finally time to get serious about bracing the tub. I just kept finding rust and it soon came to me that the front end was not going to be supported if I kept taking the crappy bits out. Braced the firewall and dash along with the tub in hopes to keep it from moving too much as I cut pieces out. I have a long list of measurements right after I put the bracing in that I have been comparing to as I cut away the cancer. It has been nice to see that no measurements have changed yet.

What I did find is the PO, a welder and millwright, thought that welding anywhere there was a seam was the appropriate way to do things. I have to hand it to him, his welding was top notch, the only way the kick panels would come out was to destroy the lip on the toe board/firewall. As I kept cutting out though I kept noticing more an more rust. The firewalls were still coated in underbody spray, but in some placed water got in and started eating away.
 

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finding the time always gets in the way... keep after it

It was finally time to get serious about bracing the tub. I just kept finding rust and it soon came to me that the front end was not going to be supported if I kept taking the crappy bits out. Braced the firewall and dash along with the tub in hopes to keep it from moving too much as I cut pieces out. I have a long list of measurements right after I put the bracing in that I have been comparing to as I cut away the cancer. It has been nice to see that no measurements have changed yet.

What I did find is the PO, a welder and millwright, thought that welding anywhere there was a seam was the appropriate way to do things. I have to hand it to him, his welding was top notch, the only way the kick panels would come out was to destroy the lip on the toe board/firewall. As I kept cutting out though I kept noticing more an more rust. The firewalls were still coated in underbody spray, but in some placed water got in and started eating away.
 
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Parts have finally made it across the border.
 

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