Steering gear identification

[Teal68]

I need you guys help again already! I have a 67 that I'm piecing together from many Broncos and Bronco parts I've gathered over the years. I bought a used OEM power steering Bronco set up from a member years ago. Years ago! I just installed it about 6 months ago, and the input seal was leaking slightly. Now it's puking. No big deal...It's been sitting a long time. I bought an input seal kit from the local auto parts store and when I went to install the parts today I noticed all the parts were too small. After that, I checked with the parts store to make sure I got the right parts kit. It checked out. Either the parts kit I got is packaged wrong or I don't actually have a Bronco steering box. All the parts that came out of the box are larger diameter than what came out of the re-seal kit I have.

See attached images. if it matters, it about a 5 point something or 6 turn box is what it takes stop to stop..

Images:
-The IPC number is the seal that was in the steering gear box and dimensions
-The comparison pic has the seal kit on the bottom and the actual box parts above
-Steering gear pics from above and side.

Are there numbers somewhere to id the box?

Your help is much appreciated. I want to take this to Throwback so bad!

 

[thegreatjustino]

Very obviously a stock Early Bronco power steering box

 

[Teal68]

Very obviously a stock Early Bronco power steering box

Thanks for confirmation Justin. Now I've got to figure out why the seals don't fit. Parts store shows the same kit I got in stock so I'm going to check it out this morning. Maybe mine just got packaged wrong.

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/...ering-gear-input-shaft-seal-kit/opr0/28401454

 

[Teal68]

No luck at the parts store. Same parts in the kit they had on the shelf.

Starting to feel like even though this looks like a Bronco steering box it most likely came out of something else.

 

[Slowleak]

It sure looks like a bronco box. I replaced the input seals in mine a few years ago and had no problem finding them locally. Here’s some stuff that may help identify it….but it looks pretty obvious. I have a 77 box I just pulled out. If you want me to measure anything let me know.

How To Identify Your Steering Gear Box - Lee Power Steering

Our comprehensive guide will help you identify your power steering gearbox. We sell & service 5 different Saginaw gearboxes: Saginaw 800/808, 708, GMT & Ford.

leepowersteering.com

 

[Teal68]

It sure looks like a bronco box. I replaced the input seals in mine a few years ago and had no problem finding them locally. Here’s some stuff that may help identify it….but it looks pretty obvious.

http://[URL]https://leepowersteering.com/pages/how-to-identify-gearbox

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Yea, I did some more digging and I feel more confident. The local kits have seals that are for a 3/4" shaft. We're supposed to be leaving for Throwback next Sunday. I hope I have it resolved by then. You going?

 

[Slowleak]

Yea, I did some more digging and I feel more confident. The local kits have seals that are for a 3/4" shaft. We're supposed to be leaving for Throwback next Sunday. I hope I have it resolved by then. You going?

I am…. Checking in on Wednesday. I’ll see you there!

 

[Viperwolf1]

The input shaft size and spline count changed on most saginaw boxes around 1976. It didn't affect the Bronco boxes. You just need to source an older kit.

 

[Teal68]

The input shaft size and spline count changed on most saginaw boxes around 1976. It didn't affect the Bronco boxes. You just need to source an older kit.

Thanks Viper. Yea, I feel like there system is wrong and it's giving me a kit for truck box. Would that be the Edelmann 7858 I noticed you referenced in another thread?

 

[Timmy390]

I used 76 as a reference......Looks like there's a kit specific to FORD box and another for Saginaw box. The Edelmann kit is also listed.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog...05580,steering,steering+gear+rebuild+kit,7397

Tim

 

[Teal68]

I am…. Checking in on Wednesday. I’ll see you there!

Great! See you soon.

 

[Oldtimer]

Is there an ID tag under the cover bolt holding the hose support?

 

[Viperwolf1]

Thanks Viper. Yea, I feel like there system is wrong and it's giving me a kit for truck box. Would that be the Edelmann 7858 I noticed you referenced in another thread?

That's the full seal kit for a Bronco box or really for any small piston Saginaw box from mid 60s to mid 70s. Those all had the large input shaft.

 

[bronco217]

This is the one I used a few weeks ago for mine, from O'Reillys.

Precision Power Steering Steering Gear Seal Kit - 28401078​

 

[Teal68]

Is there an ID tag under the cover bolt holding the hose support?

View attachment 950478

No tag.

 

[Teal68]

That's the full seal kit for a Bronco box or really for any small piston Saginaw box from mid 60s to mid 70s. Those all had the large input shaft.

I'd prefer to just get the input seal kit, but the lack of detailed information on Rockauto has me concerned. Especially since Sunsong has basically the same part number as the kit I got that didn't fit. At least it says 3/4. Which I guess means 3/4" diameter shaft. The Edelmann 7095 gives no detailed information at all.

Link to Rockauto:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog...,steering,steering+gear+input+shaft+seal,7353

 

[Viperwolf1]

This sunsong seal kit says 7/8", which I think is correct. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog...,steering,steering+gear+input+shaft+seal,7353

 

[Teal68]

This is the one I used a few weeks ago for mine, from O'Reillys.

Precision Power Steering Steering Gear Seal Kit - 28401078​

Thank you. I may to get the full kit. Good to know that one works.

This sunsong seal kit says 7/8", which I think is correct. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog...,steering,steering+gear+input+shaft+seal,7353

I missed that and it was listed right there with the part! I am not a master of the obvious! Thank you

EDIT: Now I see you used a different vehicle to come up with that part number.

 

[Teal68]

Update for future reference:
Edelmann 7095 is a correct input seal kit for our Bronco power steering gear.

Edit: Corrected part number. Thank you pollack77 for catching that.

 

[polack77]

Update for future reference:
Edelmann 7059 is a correct input seal kit for our Bronco power steering gear.

7059? I am seeing 7095