T bird caliper question

[NicksTrix]

TZ you know i love me some AN pieces as well.

i was looking for an option a few years back and found i can make the blazer lines work with just a little bit of work. the inlet hole on the caliper has some ribs that need to be ground flat so the banjo block can sit flush. the corners of the banjo block might like a little relieving to help gain a bit of angle. the line comes with a bracket that is just crimped on about halfway up the hose. i remove those. they must have bolted on the gm spindle. i'll send you a pic

 

[vintage bronco]

I have a complete set of rebuilt T-Bird Calipers new low dust pads and dimpled and slotted brake rotors for a D44 to sell if interested all you would need is the hoses and you would be set.

 

[reddog3006]

Rear Disc

I went thru at least a half dozen combinations of disc/drum, disc/disc, different mc with disc/drum and disc/disc, then different mc with the 2nd disc/disc, you get the picture! ;D

Then I upgraded to the T-bird calipers with two different m/c combinations for about 5 yrs+ and pedal wasn't easy but everything was ok as I was waiting to build the stroker/4r70W/KluneV/Atlas combo and then I could move my new hydroboost system over to operate off the clutch swing arm assbly.

Upgraded to a new stock Astro m/c with the T-bird calipers up front and Exploder discs in the rear. Still running my original almost 20 yr old Summit manual bias proportional valve for the rear brakes and they are dialed in better than any Bronco I've had or driven (sure there are better combo's as Gary's is amazing but he's never let me drive his!!!)

What year Explorer need to pull off of for the rear disc ?

 

[mavereq]

I've never found an off the shelf application that works although I'm imagine Blazer lines might work. I'm an AN fittings guy I've only used banjo fittings with -3 fittings to which I attach my braided lines.

Todd Z.

i used the braided lines that bcb sells

 

[sykanr0ng]

What year Explorer need to pull off of for the rear disc ?

1995 to 2001, there may be other years that have the same brakes too.

 

[nvrstuk]

I think mine are '98-01 also...mine are on 35 spline Dutchman axles on a cut-down pickup housing.... I think it should be the same caliper and bracket tho.

 

[4x4man514]

Getting back to the tbird calipers, I've got mine installed and I'm not sure if they are stronger or not. The pedal is softer but it travels way further. I've bled and bled and bled. I'm pretty sure I've gotten all the air out. Does this sound normal?

Thanks

 

[4x4man514]

btt. anyone ?anyone?

 

[bronconut73]

btt. anyone ?anyone?

What mc and what bore is it?

You may need more capacity for the larger volume of the T-Bird calipers.


I don't have T-Bird calipers but had a soft pedal until I moved up to a larger bore m/c.
I am using a '73 F-250 Camper Special dual piston manual caliper m/c.
Really big bore. You may not need one this big....but if you do they are really cheap....like $22 bucks at AZ.

 

[nvrstuk]

X2 what Bronconut73 said...larger volume of caliper means more pedal travel to move enough fluid to fill the caliper without upgrading to a larger dia m/c bore..."soft" isn't right tho as the brakes when bled properly will give you a hard pedal

 

[4x4man514]

Ok I think I understand, the pedal is hard I guess but has a lot of travel. So it's more than just pedal feel, I need to go to a bigger mc bore to get the full performance out of the calipers. This is on my 86 f150 so that's the mc I have now. With the 44s I need all the braking power I can get.

On my bronco I'm going Hydroboost , should I plan on this larger mc with it too?

 

[bronconut73]

Ok I think I understand, the pedal is hard I guess but has a lot of travel. So it's more than just pedal feel, I need to go to a bigger mc bore to get the full performance out of the calipers. This is on my 86 f150 so that's the mc I have now. With the 44s I need all the braking power I can get.

On my bronco I'm going Hydroboost , should I plan on this larger mc with it too?

The bigger bore m/c moves more fluid but is harder to push, so having it with hydroboost could really be the hot ticket since HB is so strong....hmmm....
But no sense in trying to re-invent the wheel. Many people use a mid 80's Ram Charger or Diplomat m/c. It fits. Its small enough to fit under the hood. Its aluminum so it won't rust. It has a reservoir that is more secure from leaking.
And regardless of this m/c' s bore HB will plant your forehead on the windshield.

 

[bronconut73]

Ok I think I understand, the pedal is hard I guess but has a lot of travel. So it's more than just pedal feel, I need to go to a bigger mc bore to get the full performance out of the calipers. This is on my 86 f150 so that's the mc I have now. With the 44s I need all the braking power I can get.

On my bronco I'm going Hydroboost , should I plan on this larger mc with it too?

Just remember....too big of a bore will make the pedal too hard to push.

Happy medium is needed especially with manual brakes.....