Why should I convert to EFI

[daddycreswell]

Just running things through my head of what I want vs need to so to my Bronco. Ones of those things is EFI, do I need to convert it? If so why.... Give me your pros and cons of doing it.

 

[yakelys69]

My question would be what don't you like about your setup? Would efi fix it? and Is the cost worth it to you?

I prefer efi for less maintenance, more consistent tuning in varying elevations, no bouncing needles or flooded engines on steep bouncy situations. Im sure people good with off-road carb tuning abilities have solutions for all those problems but I don't.

 

[OX1]

I'm switching to throttle body, as even with additives, long term storage has started eating through the bowls of my Edelbrock carbs, a couple times now.
I suspect it is due to bowl being open to atmosphere.........

 

[daddycreswell]

My question would be what don't you like about your setup? Would efi fix it? and Is the cost worth it to you?

I prefer efi for less maintenance, more consistent tuning in varying elevations, no bouncing needles or flooded engines on steep bouncy situations. Im sure people good with off-road carb tuning abilities have solutions for all those problems but I don't.

It's not that I don't like my current setup, I am just wondering is it worth the cost to do. Mine EB is a pavement queen plan and simple. When I get in it, I pumped the pedal 12-13 times and it fires up and off I go. I guess main reason I think I need is because I don't drive it all the time, so with EFI I don't have to worry about a gummed up carb. But is that worth the 2k for the EFI. I am looking at the Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 system all in one kit.

 

[bronconut73]

Well by stepping all the way up to that Edelbrock kit (killer by the way) you flew right by easier and cheaper models like the Holley Sniper.
Holley Sniper and Fitech without timing control is about $750 right?
I think $950 with timing control (worth it in my opinion).

 

[Timmy390]

It's not that I don't like my current setup, I am just wondering is it worth the cost to do. Mine EB is a pavement queen plan and simple. When I get in it, I pumped the pedal 12-13 times and it fires up and off I go. I guess main reason I think I need is because I don't drive it all the time, so with EFI I don't have to worry about a gummed up carb. But is that worth the 2k for the EFI. I am looking at the Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 system all in one kit.

Why do you need EFI? Cause all the cool kids are doing it and you want to be cool RIGHT? LOL

I switched for the reasons you have above. Pavement queen, having to pump the gas and hammer the starter after it sat for a week or two and gummed up carbs. If i had a $1 for each time I had to take the top off the 2B and get the "jelly" out of the bowls. Running pure gas helps all that but that's not always an option not to mention the price.

EFI, I get in, hit the key and go every time.

Ashamed to admit it but my rig has sat for 2 plus months probably closer to 3 plus. Winter and all. Needed to pull it into the shop and fix the gas sending unit as spring is fast approaching.....Got in, hit the key (battery damn near dead) and it cranked over (slow as hell) and fired off in less than 3 seconds.

To me, that's worth the cost......At some point my Samurai is going EFI as well as the 69 Stang.

Tim

 

[Yeller]

Not to mention, especially with engines that sit. not washing the cylinders with raw fuel makes your engine last decades longer. So as an investment, it saves money in the long run.

 

[bmc69]

Main driver for me to convert to EFI was for trail performance.

 

[daddycreswell]

Why do you need EFI? Cause all the cool kids are doing it and you want to be cool RIGHT? LOL

I switched for the reasons you have above. Pavement queen, having to pump the gas and hammer the starter after it sat for a week or two and gummed up carbs. If i had a $1 for each time I had to take the top off the 2B and get the "jelly" out of the bowls. Running pure gas helps all that but that's not always an option not to mention the price.

EFI, I get in, hit the key and go every time.

Ashamed to admit it buy my rig has sat for 2 plus months probably closer to 3 plus. Winter and all. Needed to pull it into the shop and fix the gas sending unit as spring is fast approaching.....Got in, hit the key (battery damn near dead) and it cranked over (slow as hell) and fired off in less than 3 seconds.

To me, that's worth the cost......At some point my Samurai is going EFI as well as the 69 Stang.

Tim

What system did you go with?

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[73azbronco]

Yours runs?

No.

 

[daddycreswell]

Well by stepping all the way up to that Edelbrock kit (killer by the way) you flew right by easier and cheaper models like the Holley Sniper.
Holley Sniper and Fitech without timing control is about $750 right?
I think $950 with timing control (worth it in my opinion).

I had read very mixed reviews about both of those system. But I am here to learn which one would be best for my application.
Looking on Wildhorse website the Sniper is $1200.00

 

[daddycreswell]

Yours runs?

No.

It does....and I know the old "don't fix if it ain't broken". But I am doing a bunch of things to it and I need to decided if I want/need to do this with all the other stuff and be done with it.

 

[Timmy390]

What system did you go with?

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Cobbled....;D

1996 E350 351W Speed Density converted to 1995 Mustang Mass Air. Converted the wiring harness myself. Running a combination of parts from the 96 Van, 95 Stand and 97 Explorer.

Now I know that's not what you're looking for (it was easier than you think it was) so my suggestion would be to go full on Explorer. Buy a junker or go to a scrap yard and get everything you need. Upper and if 302 lower intake (I run the complete explorer upper hose intake sensors and all) wiring harness and ECM, fuel rail, injectors, inertia switch heck grab the front dress too. I suggest buying a junker and selling what you can and scrapping the rest. I did that with the E350 and en the end, had 90% of the parts I needed for $65 Got the Explorer complete upper for $35 ECM was $125 Because I'm 351W the GT40 lower was the big ticket item.

EFIGuy can work the harness for you or he has a post with video showing everything you need to do. He can then program the ECM to your needs.

He did my ECM.....VERY happy with it.....

Going to put Geo Tracker EFI on my Sam much the same way as above, buy a junker blah blah
The 69 is getting one of the T-body systems. It's an FE car or I would go Explorer on it.

Tim

 

[Timmy390]

I had read very mixed reviews about both of those system. But I am here to learn which one would be best for my application.
Looking on Wildhorse website the Sniper is $1200.00

All the T-body systems have issues with dual plane intakes or at leased did. Has to do with how they measure the air?? The plane causes it to read oddly.

If you go with one of those systems keep that in mind. Might want to do so reading on it. That's the main reason the 69 don't have EFI. FE intakes are $$$ and I currently run a dual plane E-brock RPM

Tim

 

[Broncobowsher]

The FiTech has the divided plenum issue. The map sensor is only reading one side.
Sniper has a channel from the MAP sensor to both sides. It reads both plenums.

The ones I have seen with issues have always been the FiTech.

 

[Scoop]

Main driver for me to convert to EFI was for trail performance.

Same here. My 2100 would not run well in Colorado and did not run at all over 12K feet. EFI solved that completely. Sure it loses power at altitude, but still runs! I'm sure bmc69 was talking about off camber and up and down hill performance which EFI solves as well, but my main issue was operating at high altitudes in Colorado.

Also, I like the fact that there is no warm up time. Start it, let the high idle drop (only a few seconds) and drive away. I hate working with and adjusting a choke.

Is it worth $1K - $2K for you do do it? From your description of how you use your Bronco, I don't think so.

 

[sprdv1]

Just running things through my head of what I want vs need to so to my Bronco. Ones of those things is EFI, do I need to convert it? If so why.... Give me your pros and cons of doing it.

more to troubleshoot w/issues, BUT sure does make a difference in colder weather, and such

 

[sanndmann3]

I did mine for off road performance. Sand dunes have lots of whoop de doos and off camber stuff. carb would always bog or lean out at most inopportune time...
That and fuel injection is sexy... lol

 

[56f100bbw]

My 77 carbureted long is your drive it every day you’re good to go and that’s the fun part

 

[daddycreswell]

I don't drive it everyday though, and I have no plans to.

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