Quiet mud tires?

[nvrstuk]

I rode with a buddy at Moab last year for a day and we both run GY MTR's . I kid you not, we literally gutted a sidewall doing 2 mph and then on the SAME trail he backed up and put a 1/2" stick thru the sidewall on another one... I was standing next to his rig (arm's reach) when he did it. We were not impressed. lol

I just bought Mickey T's in the Baja Boss MT. I currently am battling covid as they sit in my shop (sitting there two days now and driving me nuts) lol and I stop and smell the rubber for a high... smelling 2 stroke in the morning b4 hitting the snow and smelling new tires that go on my Bronco... no better smells in the world!

Remember this. Simply put- The more mileage you get from a tire just means the rubber compound is harder guaranteeing you more miles. Hard rubber does not grip rocks, wet pavement, especially compact snow/ice or dirt or anything else. Example: Toyo MT's are the absolute worst tire I ever had on my Bronco (got them used, ran them and hated them every trip, sold them two years later). They even roll poorly. Their site listed the rolling resistance as the worst it could be and I could not coast down my road with them on. Very obvious difference then every other tire I've driven my Bronco on the SAME road for 47 yrs so I have a pretty good idea...

I have no idea about loudness on the MThompson's but they are made by GY now, in Akron.

BTW, I have 4- GoodYear MTR's f/s. 40"x 12.5 x 17"

 

[Yeller]

I rode with a buddy at Moab last year for a day and we both run GY MTR's . I kid you not, we literally gutted a sidewall doing 2 mph and then on the SAME trail he backed up and put a 1/2" stick thru the sidewall on another one... I was standing next to his rig (arm's reach) when he did it. We were not impressed. lol

I just bought Mickey T's in the Baja Boss MT. I currently am battling covid as they sit in my shop (sitting there two days now and driving me nuts) lol and I stop and smell the rubber for a high... smelling 2 stroke in the morning b4 hitting the snow and smelling new tires that go on my Bronco... no better smells in the world!

Remember this. Simply put- The more mileage you get from a tire just means the rubber compound is harder guaranteeing you more miles. Hard rubber does not grip rocks, wet pavement, especially compact snow/ice or dirt or anything else. Example: Toyo MT's are the absolute worst tire I ever had on my Bronco (got them used, ran them and hated them every trip, sold them two years later). They even roll poorly. Their site listed the rolling resistance as the worst it could be and I could not coast down my road with them on. Very obvious difference then every other tire I've driven my Bronco on the SAME road for 47 yrs so I have a pretty good idea...

I have no idea about loudness on the MThompson's but they are made by GY now, in Akron.

BTW, I have 4- GoodYear MTR's f/s. 40"x 12.5 x 17"

Wish you weren’t so far away, know a guy looking for a starter set of 40’s but he’s on the other coast LOL. You don’t want to see what our offer would be by time we shipped them

 

[Nothing Special]

I have never killed at tire in Moab, ....

I didn't really kill them. They might not even have been mortally wounded. But they both had pretty good slices in the sidewall, one tire about 2" long, the other about 4" long. Both tires were still holding air, and if they were purely trail tires I'd've kept running them until they did die. Maybe that would've been hours, maybe years. But I REALLY don't want to have a blowout when I'm flat-towing, or even worse, when I'm driving on the freeway to Capitol Reef! So they're going away.

 

[Yeller]

I change them for the same reasons, longest I keep them is their 5th birthday. Now my buggy on the other hand I’ll run them till they come apart or look like a babies hiney but those tires are now $4k a set

 

[nvrstuk]

I didn't want Trep's because I drive so much as a DD but just giggles I looked up the price and the are over double the price than the screaming deal I just got. $1100 EACH

Sorry, can't justify that...

Probably what we will all be paying in 3 yrs but I don't have to think about that yet! lol

Shipping...yeah, shipping is a killer on a 6" x6" x6" box !!

 

[Speedrdr]

$1100 EACH

Does that ^^^^ include mounting, balancing and road hazard warranty? Also does it come with complementary continental breakfast?

Randy

 

[nvrstuk]

Comes with the day old doughnut that nobody else wanted yeaterday!

$ that cost is plus everything

 

[Broncobowsher]

Doubt they even make them anymore. But the old Baja Claws were amazingly quiet for as aggressive as they were. And they were sticky tires as well. I remember getting a quiet(ish) muffler and suddenly my biggest noise was the wind noise. Didn't have much for weatherstrip. Had some (junk car trunk seal cut and fit as I recall my cheap days).

 

[knack]

I just mounted up my second set of Pirelli Scorpion Mud tires. Not sure if they come in the size you're looking for, but they're quiet. A friend of mine is running them on a newer mopar pickup now too - also tells me they are the quietest he's found.

 

[Yeller]

Well I sucked it up and put some 33x12.50-15 Yokohama MT’s on the J Truck. I am shocked at how quiet they are. Yes they make noise but windows down it is barely perceptible. Windows up and the ac on, it does have a roar but is in a similar tone to wind noise. I’ve put about 2000 miles on them so far and am very impressed.

 

[nvrstuk]

Here's another parallel thread on mud tire type tread and noise.


https://classicbroncos.com/forums/t...on-in-the-same-rig.324621/page-2#post-3560614

 

[Nothing Special]

I have picked up a set of BFG KM3s, but haven't got them on the Bronco yet. I'll update this thread after I actually try them out.

 

[Nothing Special]

Well, I tried the KM3s. Sorry to the people who like them, but they were quite possibly the worst sounding tire on the highway I've ever had the displeasure to experience. They were probably slightly quieter than the ProComp XTreme MTs, but they had a two-tone dissonance (a tritone, "the devil's chord", for people who know music) that I was not going to be able to live with. BFG and my tire shop stood behind their product and service enough that I was able to switch into a different BFG tire. That only gives one real option, so I now have BFG All Terrain KO2s. They are quiet on the highway, so I know I'll like that aspect, but I had a couple of sets of BFG ATs on this Bronco before, the original version (33x9.50-15) and a set of KOs (33x10.50-15). They were OK compromise tires, but I did like the XTreme MTs better off road. So time will tell if I decide I'm happy enough with these to stick with them or if I'll start a new search in a few years.

Here's a link to a video I made comparing all of the tires I had available. I only had 1 of the Kenda Klever RT so to keep things fair I put three of my highway tires on and then just swapped out the left front. I ran about the same speed on the same stretch of road, holding the phone near the open driver's window. The tires tested (in order) were:

• BFG Mud Terrain KM3 (33x12.50-15)
• ProComp XTreme MT (33x12.50-15)
• Kenda Klever RT (33x10.50-15)
• Hankook Kinergy PT (235/85-15, my highway tires, so this is what was on the other three corners for all of the tests)
• BFG All Terrain KO2 (33x12.50-15, this test was run a couple weeks after the first four, which were all on the same evening)

Then for grins I ran the same route with all four KO2s.

You can decide for yourselves what you think, but from this test the Kenda Klever RT would be my hands-down favorite. Unfortunately BFG didn't want to give me a set of those. Plus my tire shop said they had been discontinued (although I still see them on the Kenda web site, so my tire shop may be wrong on that). But the KO2s are certainly quiet. I honestly can't pick out any tire noise over the rest of the noises (although I had KO2s on a truck before and they did get louder as they wore).

So that's where I am. Not really where I want to be, but I'm sure it will be OK.

 

[nvrstuk]

What a major hassle & disappointment! At least your shop stood behind you likebl you said.

Glad you recorded sound too... heck I forgot too!

Definitely a difference in sound & tone for sure!

 

[Nothing Special]

The biggest disappointment is that I had and loved 4 sets of the original BFG Mud Terrain (before there were any "Ks"). They weren't as quiet as a highway tire, but I easily tolerated them as I wore three sets out on daily-driven pickups, and was very happy with them off-road. I wish I could still get the 40 year old design that I think was so much better overall than the new one.

Similar on the BFG ATs. I went through five sets of the original design and one of the KO before getting my first set of KO2s. After wearing those out on on a pickup I decided I was done with BFG on my daily drivers. After wearing down a bit the KO2s were louder than I was willing to put up with and they never tracked straight. I'm willing to cut them a little more slack on my Bronco than on my daily driver pickup, so I'm not saying that I definitely won't stay with BFG ATs here. But I do wish they'd quit "improving" their tires.

 

[Yeller]

I do to, used to be if you wanted a round tire that wore well, drove great and was an easy sure fire win, BFG all the way. Now it’s a real crap shoot to get a good set of them, now the best options seem to come from Japan and Korea. I’ve had good luck from Cooper which is one of the last remaining USA manufacturers

your old ProComp tires were made by cooper if they were USA, if they were foreign, they came out of the Maxxis factory, which both are excellent.

FYI Cooper is now owned by Goodyear.

The Kenda RT is most assuredly still available, spoke with their rep at the Crandon WI short course race a month ago. Probably not in their preferred distribution network so didn’t want to dig.

 

[bmc69]

I didn't see mention of Toyos....I've been running the 40" Open country M/Ts on my '78 Bronco for a few years now and very pleased with balance and noise level. Far better than the 37" Pro Comps I had on it before.

I'm right in the middle of mounting a set of 315/75r16 Toyo Open Country R/Ts on my F-250...can't say there is a lot of obvious difference in the tread appearance compared to the M/Ts on my Bronco. Replacing a set of Goodyear Wranglers that stil have 90% tread but failing due to dry rot (13 years old). The Wranglers were pretty noisy.

 

[nvrstuk]

The problem- and it's a big one is I live in snow country where the streets can be compact snow ice for months- with slopes/hills. The BFG AT's are terrible on it. I mean almost on par with the Toyo M/T's as the worst tire for compact snow/ice I've ever run. I currently have them on my F150 and it's hard to not break lose at 25mph and start sliding EVEN with a thousand pounds of sled deck and two snowmobiles on the back.

Do good in loose snow but too hard a compound and not enough biting edges to grip. The Toyo M/T's on ice I can compare with the old GY MTR's as I used to snow wheel with a couple guys running them and I can't follow them down the compact snow/ice road coming out after wheeling. They can go slow and go straight. When I had the Toyo MT's on I would be following and I literally would break lose every 50ft or so and start sliding... I would have to go into the ditch to get control, power out and then stop and start the same routine over again. Did this once every couple hundred yds or so for about 4 miles. Guys stopped and waited for me a couple times wondering what was happening as they could see me in their mirrors as I told them to stay WAAAAAY ahead. Miserable tire. Great for a 8,000# truck and highway for looks and 80,000 mile tread life is all.

 

[nvrstuk]

I'm pleased so far with the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss M/T's. Will know in a few months how they do in compact snow/ice. They don't have the quantity of small tread edges I would prefer but we shall see.

I am still running them without needing any balancing. I can't believe it, a 40" tire that doesn't need any weight! Up to about 77mph they are fine. At 80mph I can tell that they could use some fine tuning. Havent' been to Moab or the SW yet so we haven't been running around the desert at 80mph looking for canyons with ruins.

 

[bmc69]

Miserable tire. Great for a 8,000# truck and highway for looks and 80,000 mile tread life is all.

huh...been a great tire on my '78 Bronco and it certainly weighs a lot less than 8000#. Not on a par with the 39.5 IROKS I ran but I'm happy for the tread wear tradeoff.