3 bad mechanical fuel pumps in a row??? Am I missing something???

[Muddy1966Bronco]

So the Bronco's original fuel pump went out a few weeks ago. No problem. Got another one from Advance and it ran like new for about 150 miles. Then it went out again. Ok, the top and bottom had separated and could spin, so it was a definitely a badly built part. Got the warranty pump and replaced it. And only got maybe 20 miles on it until it went out AGAIN.

So I'm cursing Advance and their junk. Got one at O'Riellys and it lasted maybe 5 miles and went out!!! What is going on??? Am I missing something??? I have a Scott Drake fuel pump ordered from Amazon to try. I've never encountered something like this.

 

[jckkys]

Welcome to the world of Chinese parts. Some if what I thought were us made, like Carters, I'm told are now Chinese. It's a real PITA.

 

[Rustytruck]

Carters are junk , delphi zre junk. the latest one airtex is going good for 2 year's now. The problem i see is the rubber seals on the check valves swell from the alcohol and dont do their job. The diaphrams were not failing. If they did you would have fuel out the weep hole.

 

[jamesroney]

My 1967 Fuel Pump went out in June. I ordered a replacement from Summit.

The fuel pump lever did not feel right, and I could not get it to fit on the block normally. I rotated the engine, installed it with on the low part of the eccentric, got the bolts started...and I felt something go "snap."

It never pumped fuel, so I took it off and found the pump arm was not attached to the fuel diaphragm rod. Also the vacuum pump rod was detached.

I went ahead and disassembled it. The gaskets and diaphragms were new and perfect. The rod link was bent, and the arm did not fit in the slot. 1 minute with a die grinder, and reassembled it all. It works perfectly now.

Kinda sucks to have to rebuild a rebuilt part...but at least it was clean.

 

[Muddy1966Bronco]

Carters are junk , delphi zre junk. the latest one airtex is going good for 2 year's now. The problem i see is the rubber seals on the check valves swell from the alcohol and dont do their job. The diaphrams were not failing. If they did you would have fuel out the weep hole.

Ok, I figured at the prices Carter was at that it was junk too. I’m just in disbelief that three in a row failed. Scott Drake seems to be a good name for other parts...hopefully it is for fuel pumps. The only other suggestions I got from friends and family was to check fuel lines (all new tho), check tank vent for wasps nest or debris (highly unlikely) and remove the sending unit and check the sock for blockage (new sending unit and tank was clean). Everything points to the pumps, but I just wanted to be sure another issue wasn’t causing them to fail!

 

[SteveL]

Any rebuilt parts I go to napa and ask for the better line of what I need. Even napa sells a cheap line of China crap to compete with the big chain stores.

 

[half cab]

Be careful Scott Drake ain't all it's cracked up to be. I do like Steve said,got to NAPA and ask for their best.

 

[Muddy1966Bronco]

NAPA doesn’t have any mechanicals except the cheap ones. The previous suggestion of Airtex and the Scott Drake I found seem to be the only other options besides going electric.

 

[half cab]

Idk it may go out today but I've been using a napa one for several yrz now. I've got some cheap crap from Drake before.

 

[jckkys]

The Carters I've used including the original Ford installed at the factory were great. So the statement that they are junk, is pure crap. I got a good 20 yrs. out of 2 each and the third is still on the engine and has been for a few years. I have heard tho, that the new ones are Chinese. The ones I replaced sprayed oil out of the weep hole. Otherwise they pumped fuel, and so continued to do the primary job. They were just making a mess.

 

[Rustytruck]

So my staement is crap so be it i spent my money like everyone else. Factory ford lasted 10 years same with its ford replacement. Factory were made by carter. After the ford failed i bought a carter pump and it failed within 5 years. Bought a second carter and it failed in 2 years. So i replaced it with Airtex 2 years ago. I then took the failed carter apart and found the seals in the check valves swolen and failing the function of the check valves. So pump dont suck fuel and dont pump fuel. Pictures were posted on this site. So i dont buy carter any more. Do as you wish. I try to help people especially on something that has a chance of stranding you in the middle of nowhere . So buy what you want and stop being a jerk or go to facebook where you belong.

 

[73azbronco]

Electirc pump time, been going strong for 40 years.

https://www.jegs.com/i/Carter/180/P...&utm_term=4579740809609954&utm_content=Carter

 

[Muddy1966Bronco]

Electirc pump time, been going strong for 40 years.

https://www.jegs.com/i/Carter/180/P...&utm_term=4579740809609954&utm_content=Carter

That will most likely be the choice if this next one fails. I’ve never had manual pump failures like this. I’ve had more problems in the past with electric and I really don’t like their obnoxious noise, but I can’t deal with fuel pump failures daily.

Rustytruck, that makes sense they aren’t built to handle the ethanol and give out over a couple years...but within miles??? I’ve just never encountered such quick and successive failures.

 

[WheelHorse]

For some reason, I thought Delphi was a decent brand so I ordered the MF0094 as a replacement.

 

[gnpenning]

As long as ethanol has been out it's sad that manufacturers haven't upgraded their products to be compatible. It has to cost far more in warranty replacement than what a compatible material would add.

Pretty much the same with all cheesy parts.

I feel your pain muddy.

 

[Maddog B]

I've ran into the same issue. Back in April after getting my Bronco put back together, I put about 150 miles on a new carquest fuel pump from Advance.
I turned into my neighborhood after a short trip and the engine sputtered and died. In my mind I thought there was no way it could be the new pump so I checked everything from the lines and filters to the carb. I decided to pull the pump and mount it in a vice with a line ran to a gas can. I manually actuated the pump and nothing! I returned the pump and compared the pressure of the new pump vs the new broken pump and the broken pump was a lot easier to compress. I've been driving on the second pump since then without an issue but its always in the back of my mind. As far as US made pumps I believe Edelbrock still makes theirs here. I have an Edelbrock Performer RPM street pump on my Camaro and its ran great for 8 years.

 

[Bronco4x4]

I've been using Holley manual race fuel pumps in my EB and my Pontiac GP. So far so good. They do fail from age but nothing like the off-shore junk this thread is about. The Holley pump can be repositioned. There on bolts on the case and you can rotate the line fittings in the horizontal for best fit.

 

[Bronco Junkie]

Welcome to the world of Chinese parts. Some if what I thought were us made, like Carters, I'm told are now Chinese. It's a real PITA.

Winner, winner chicken dinner! I can't tell how many parts I got failed right out of the box. Even if you want to pay triple for quality there is no other choice.

 

[Bronco4x4]

It appears we cannot go by brand name anymore. I'll be checking each time I go to buy. I am actually happier when I see Made in Japan.

 

[Muddy1966Bronco]

So the Scott Drake went in and so far the Bronco is running better than it ever has! Lord willing, the problem is fixed for good!