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Explorer serp tech help

papabill

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Hi need some help on my serpentine swap. my 302 timing cover has the oil dipstick and the mountaineer does not. Will I have to buy a rear sump oil pan for the driver side dipstick.
 

thegreatjustino

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All EBs had the dipstick in the pan. If your 302 came from a different vehicle, adding the correct pan once you add the Explorer timing cover would be the logical choice. Are you sure your current pan doesn't just have the dipstick tube hole plugged or sealed off somehow.
 

Broncobowsher

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Have to ask, what oil pan are you running now?
The timing cover dipstick shows that the engine came out of a car originally with a front sump oil pan. Broncos have this issue with the front idfferential wanting to take the same space as the front sump, thus the rear sump was used. And the dipstick moved to where the sump is at.

I knew a guy who had a front dipstick on a dual sump (late crown vic?) and the mini supm in front had oil in it and read fine on the stick. The rear sump, where the pickup is at, ran out of oil.
 

Boss Hugg

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And just for extra info, I don't see much difference between the eb pan and the 96-01 explorer pan. The explorers used the same pan for 2- and 4wd versions so they were shaped to miss the front diff. Interestingly, the diffs are in about the same location relative to the block, so the explorer pan works.


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Viperwolf1

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And just for extra info, I don't see much difference between the eb pan and the 96-01 explorer pan. The explorers used the same pan for 2- and 4wd versions so they were shaped to miss the front diff. Interestingly, the diffs are in about the same location relative to the block, so the explorer pan works.


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The explorer pan has 1 qt less capacity than the stock Bronco pan. The explorer pan also uses a dipstick through the pan rail, which an older block won't have a hole for.
 

Broncobowsher

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The Explorer pan (and late model fox mustang) use a block mounted dipstick. If he is using the Explorer accessory on an early block, and from how he is listing the problems that is what is happening, there is no place on the early block for a dipstick.

The stock Bronco pan uses a pan mounted dipstick. Very early fox body mustangs (something like '79-82) had a pan mounted dipstick before the block mounted ones happened.

So in this case the Explorer or (most) fox mustang pans will be the wrong choice. Stock Bronco pan is a VERY good option. Good luck finding one of the early fox mustang pans, most of those cars are long gone and it is a bit of work to pull an engine just to take the pan off. And the Bronco venders will have a variety of stock used Bronco pans as well as aftermarket versions that will work.
 
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