tranny problem????

[broncomitch]

well in the process of swapping in my 351w, i had to take the tranny out to get the motor in, well the converter fell out when i was lowering the trans. (not a bad fall, on wood.) well long story short i forgot to re seat the converter when i put it in.


i didn't really half to suck it in with the bolts but did a little. when i was turning the motor over i herd i funny noise. checked it out saw nothing so fired it up. put it in gear and it would feel like it shifted into gear but she wouldn't move. everyone (even my tranny guy) told me it broke my pump and thats why it didn't work....



it didn't brake it,left some heavy grooves but thats it....


I'm starting to wonder if my converter is bad. the splines and everything where good. my tranny guy said he don't think thats the problem..

but i took my pan off and it had that black junk in the pan, like from my old converter had, the black junk is from a bad converter....


I'm really sick of putting this in and taking it out,over and over and over..

 

[Rox Crusher]

remfg tc is about 70 bucks

cheap insurance I would say

 

[Viperwolf1]

Left some grooves in what?

Black junk is clutch material and there are no clutches in the C4 converter.

 

[Fitz24]

I did the same thing the first time I installed a C4 years ago. Crushed the front pump so tranny wouldn't work. How do you know you didn't break the pump? I couldn't see inside the tranny to tell on mine.

 

[broncnaz]

Usually you cant tell if you messed up the pump or not unless you know trannys good as it doesnt really break so to speak you basically push the seal rings out of place or just put it in a bind and create excessive wear. probably why theres grooves worn in it. so now you cant build enough pressure to allow the tranny to work. Juice boxes need good pressure to work no pressure no work.

Converters rarely go bad due to installation issues it almost always the pump.

 

[broncomitch]

remfg tc is about 70 bucks

cheap insurance I would say

i payed $130 for it a few months ago.

Left some grooves in what?

Black junk is clutch material and there are no clutches in the C4 converter.

in both sides of the pump, and i small bugger on one of the pump gears.

its a c6.

I did the same thing the first time I installed a C4 years ago. Crushed the front pump so tranny wouldn't work. How do you know you didn't break the pump? I couldn't see inside the tranny to tell on mine.

tore the hole trans down last night and put it back together..

Usually you cant tell if you messed up the pump or not unless you know trannys good as it doesn't really break so to speak you basically push the seal rings out of place or just put it in a bind and create excessive wear. probably why theres grooves worn in it. so now you cant build enough pressure to allow the tranny to work. Juice boxes need good pressure to work no pressure no work.

Converters rarely go bad due to installation issues it almost always the pump.

Im having a hard time seeing it went bad....i guess there is a small chance it was just never seated....guess ill just put it all back together and see what happens.

 

[broncomitch]

i put the tranny back in. the converter was not seated before. i remember the bolts sticking way out and now they where just sticking out just enough to get a nut started and sucked it in....

should the drain plug just barley be sticking out of the fly wheel? I'm worried i have the wrong fly wheel....i shouldn't.

the windsor was bolted up to the same trans mission i have and it worked.

so i should be good right?

 

[Viperwolf1]

should the drain plug just barley be sticking out of the fly wheel?

That is correct.

One other thing I would do is put a remote filter/magnet on before you fire it up. You had some metal circulating around from earlier. It doesn't take much to hang a valve in the valvebody.

 

[broncomitch]

i had i magnet in the pan and cleaned it all up.

put everything back in and.......my ING box died on me...

the tranny didn't make any more noise like it did the first time when i was just cranking it over..

i would wire up a stock ford box like with the 71, but i don't have any more wire and need a lot of it.

 

[BwoncoHowie]

If you damaged the pump by not seating the converter all the way in, then ran the engine, there is a pretty good chance you damaged the converter hub. Install a reman TC along with your repaired pump.

 

[broncomitch]

no damage on the TC of any cind. it only takes me a hour to take it out and put it all back it anyway.

 

[BwoncoHowie]

no damage on the TC of any cind. it only takes me a hour to take it out and put it all back it anyway.

Then you must have assembled it right the first time...

 

[broncomitch]

i know i didn't.. but this time i did. so we will find out heir in a few ;D